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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:23:54 2002 209.193.234.3)

Prayers for Frodo and his family.

WG

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:23:28 2002 209.195.160.44)

KAM - I know where you're
coming from, regarding Willow and
Tara, and neither of us is going to
change the other persons opinion
regarding their point of view, but
re-watching eps, thanks to re-runs, i do
not see the same things you see.

To me, Willow and Tara started out
innocently enough, even in hidsight, i
cannot see Tara heaping unwarranted
praise on Willow. In Hush, W/T were
trapped in the laundry room, Willow, to
SAVE their lives from the Gentlemen,
tries (unsuccessfully) to move a pop
machine to block the door. Only when
Tara offers her a hand do they move
the machine - their combined strength
does it. You said: Tara showered
praise on her, and it seemed pretty
clear that Willow was NOT more
powerful, and certainly not as
knowledgable about magic as Tara
was. However, later, Tara tells
Willow she (Willow) is like Tara's mom
- very powerful. I think Willow's
strength isn't just magical, it was also
her self-esteem and self-worth, based
on not only how Buffy (and the others)
saw her, but on herself, some "inner"
strength.

Remember in "The Freshmen", Willow
and Buffy walking through campus, it
was Willow who felt at home there, it
was Willow who was self-assured and
confident.

I don't think Tara "worshiped" Willow,
did Tara "look up" to Willow? Probably.
Tara was shy and insecure with being
herself, but through loving Willow, Tara
grew stonger, more at ease with who
she was, Tara gained a confidant
whom she could confide in and share
thoughts and feelings with. i can't put
my finger on an exact moment, but as i
watch those eps again, i still see it
between them, that growing strong
together and to me it is a positive thing,
not negative.

I never saw W/T as an unhealthy ship,
or as one-sided as you see it. And i
know i'm not alone, many other
fans/websites see the same thing as i
did, a beautiful relationship that had its
share of problems, but both partners
were trying to work it out, sometimes
unsuccessfully or not as neat and tidy
as we'd like, but trying just the same.

Two last quotes from the show:

Willow: (from 2 to Go)- "The only thing
going for me -were those moments - just moments -
when Tara would look at me and I was wonderful."

And from "Hush":

WILLOW
You were there looking for me?

TARA
(nods)
I thought m-m-maybe we could
do a spell... make people talk
again. I'd seen you... in the
group, the w-w-wicca group.
You were... different than them.
They didn't seem to know...

WILLOW
What they were talking about?

Tara smiles shyly: exactly.

TARA
I think if they saw a w-w-witch
they would... run away.

WILLOW
Yeah. So how long have
you been practicing?

TARA
Always. I mean, since I was little...
My mom used to... she had a lot of
power. Like you.

WILLOW
Oh, I'm not -- I don't have
much in the way of power,
really, I mean most of my
potions come out... soup.
Also spells going awry,
friends in danger --
I'm definitely nothing special.

TARA
No, you are.

She looks Willow in the eye as she
says it. She means it. A moment, and
she looks away again, embarrassed by
her forwardness.

WILLOW
Well, I thought we made
a pretty good team --
not getting killed at all....
with some soda machine, boom!
Pretty cool. Seems like you're
kinda powerful.

TARA
I'd like to be. I feel like
I'm stuck. Like I'm at the
door and it won't open.

WILLOW
I know exactly what you mean.

The two share a sweet look -- the
beginning of a real connection.

Gotta go, but i'll be back tomorrow to
check for your comments...

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Bullseye says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:22:50 2002 193.132.126.152)

Godspeed Frodo, to wherever it is you believed you would go. I never posted to you but losing any member of the Bronze is a tradgedy. You will be missed.

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Reyna says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:17:53 2002 142.161.48.70)

Jocasta - You really do like Xander, don’t you? I’m thinking you see him as being a tender romantic lover, a bodice-ripping ravishing beast, and the faithful reliable long-haul husband all in one package.

Just to explain...whatever... I wasn’t saying that married sex is mundane, although I think most people on the board would know what I meant, and not be offended. I’m married myself. I was playing off the post (I thought it was yours but I guess I was wrong, too tired to check) about Xander being old dependable husband material which led me to picture a certain stereotype. I’d apologize but the thought of apologizing for offending Baters by implying that married sex can possibly be mundane has just caused the last of my brain to melt, drip onto the floor, and get mopped up by slayerdaddy’s scampering Speedos. So instead I'll say :p

No, I was saying that someone who’s into S/M being in a relationship with someone who’s not is a bad idea. We’ve all known or heard of RL people with bizarro sexual tastes who tried to adapt to a normal relationship. The lucky ones have bad endings, the unlucky ones have tragic endings. I think the S/M theme has been hinted at in all of Buffy’s relationships (e.g. the inter cutting with the killing in her first sex scene with Riley). You think not. End of the S/M discussion.

I will still object that the poor woman would have to make a lot of adaptations to her sexual behavior if she’s to be paired with Xander. She’s never indicated that she loves him./No matter, in enough years, she’ll grow to. She likes rough stuff./No, that was bad sick Spike, she really wants the sweet stuff like a proper girl. She’s physically stronger and can't even hug Xander without hurting him./No, she can suppress her passions.

Just one last thing and then you can have the floor and tell me I’m unromantic, and that’s Anya’s comment about him being a Viking in the sack. She loved him and it was all very sweet but I’d take it with a very large grain of salt, it doesn’t mean he’s in Buffy’s league. At the time Anya was human. The spanking, the ‘shiver me timbers’ dress-up-age role-playing, and whatever else, had the Saturday night suburban flavor to it that’s a far cry from the things Buffy got up to, whether with Angel, Riley, or Spike. Plus, I think Xander was created to be ordinary guy, not superhero, or super-powered anything.

I do know better than to question ‘shippers of any kind, so I’ll go away quietly now.

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Phoenix says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:15:16 2002 208.63.251.179)

Safarigirl: We were thinking of a game more like your second example. It will be much like Artie's Fantasy Survivor game. There are questions based on what will happen in that week's ep. So example questions may be "How many vamps will Buffy stake this ep?" or "Will Dawn throw a tantrum?" or "Will Anya mention a Bunny?" then the players get points based on how many questions they get right. We are still working out all of the details but at this point we are just gauging interest. :)

TTFN,
Phoenix

BaileyChase.com

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:13:18 2002 194.117.133.182)

Sad News about Frodo

I am sorry to announce that Frodo has died. His body was found on Monday. His friend Alan identified it today.

Those of you that posted with him will miss his wit, intelligence and rapier like mind for spotting inconsistencies in plot, set or direction.

He loved the show and loved to Bronze.

He had a way of arguing a point that retained good humor even when he got exasperated at the inability of the other poster to see his point of view.

Jocasta: Because I am always right, I can recognize those who are likewise always right. If we every disagree there will be two rights.

Frodo (March 26th 2002)

I miss him.... and intend to leave his name in my SO as a tribute.

Those of you who actually used to meet up with him might want to talk to Alan. E-mail me and I'll pass on details as I get them.

**************************Big SOs to*
abt
Algerina
BlackMagickBitsy
Brooklynrocks
Bullseye
Caelen*
Calen
Christopher Marlowe
**Dachelle*
********************Dellraven,*
********************Dudley,*
******************Falco*
Fantasma
Frodo,
****Frozenflame*
********************Halfrek*
Kansas
Kwinakian
********************Leather Jacket,*
********************Lucille,*
*Mar
*******Mh and Ms Mh*
*********************Major Wiggins,*
******Oblivia
newtThe Partyman
paks; newt,PWAC,******
seniorslayerSerena*****************
*SlayerNextDoor**********************
Special K,* Spike4evr ************
StellasuryaStake*Stitch**********
* valMichael*Watcher’s Pet*********
*Wednesday Adams
white wings
wolfguard****************

#26 DOS (SOP) Gold Star

* *

“Seeker of Possibilities”
#28 DMBBC (KRI; MSD; SSS)
"Keeper of the Romantic Ideal, Mistress of Self Delusion and Seeker of Shadow Self”

’Chance rules our lives, and the future is all unknown.
Best live as best we may, from day to day.’ (Sophocles: Oedipus Rex [978-979])
Jocasta

*POOF*

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 20:02:43 2002 131.137.245.199|131.137.245.197)

Noetic Concordance - a little sage and a pinch of thyme will give you a dose of, um, wisdom. ;0)

Safarigirl - you could get points for vamps staked, demons dumped, witty remarks, relationships that break up, nude scenes.... Fantasy Slaying for the Faint of Heart.

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:59:25 2002 62.253.64.4)

Goodnight.

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Nikka' says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:53:02 2002 64.14.248.62)

Noetic Concordance -*lol* That might definately work! And be worth it! *g* Okay, I am evil, I realize this. What ever you decide, sweetheart, I'm sure you will be spectaular!

Stellasurya - thanks.

Okay, lunchtime poof. I'm bored. Gotta go for a walk or watch my hips expand!

{{{HUGS}}}

*poof*

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PWAC says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:51:25 2002 147.154.232.5)

Jocasta - come to LA next month and see James and his band Ghost of the Robot at 14Below.

Or...sign up for the webcast of the show...much less expensive.

You can get webcast details here

http://www.14below.com/live/gotr8_10/

PWAC

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Allyson says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:42:48 2002 128.149.49.80)

Xanderella: But does that include speculation? I mean, it's speculation. If I happen to have the script for episode two, sitting here at my desk, and i start talking about it, it's a spoiler. If I am speculating on events yet to happen based soley on previously aired eps, then I don't think I have to label it a spoiler. And, you know, I won't. If my speculation is BASED on spoilers, conformed or not, then, as was the case in the WB Bronze, I'd likely do this:

Spoilery speculation below
5
4
3
2
1
The evil lunchlady from earshot is contracted for episode two. I think this means that she'll plot revenge against Buffy by poisoning the burgers at DMP
1
2
3
4
5
Spoilery Speculation Above

I dunno. It's too complex. Back to NAFDA.

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Stellasurya says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:38:10 2002 195.92.168.172)

Nikka' -
Tantra: literally 'thread' denotes the knowledge by which the yantra (or mechanism of Enlightenment) is to be worked/used/utilised.
Also the generic name for the Shakti Agamas (sectarian scriptures).
Busman's holiday!

Jocasta -

You said (well, lots of stuff - I'll get back to you on 'deserving the soul') but...What is your problem with Buffy? I like the conflict in her.... I don't want her to use her powers like a man.... she is a woman. Feminism is NOT emulating men its doing things in a woman's own way!

Conflict is all very well but she needs to admit she is conflicted and get some HELP instead of keeping on applying the 'Epiphany' band-aids until the next boy-friend or misfortune to a pal triggers exactly the same dichotomy (Norma/Slayer) in her all over agin (nod to Reyna).
The thing about power IMO (and my opinion comes from what Jung says about it incidentally) is that men have had thousands of years to wield it, they are schooled in it and, although of course they often **** it up, it is a specific part of their unconscious. For this reason, if a man has to exercise his 'feminine side' such as compassion, gentleness or tenderness he often surpasses a woman in that expression - because he uses it more infrequently. I mean I'm sure you know, as a woman, that a man's sweetness is just sooo precious, especially to children!

Similarly, women have not been used to being in the front-line of life outside the home/fighting/competeing etc. (due to historical reasons), and so when she has to use that power (her masculine side) she can be 'far more deadly than the male' because it is held in reserve so to speak.
The problem occurs when the feminine side of a bloke and the masculine side of a woman has to be wielded continuously - then it starts to dominate and usually with disasterous consequences (look at Maggie Thatcher!) Jung said that men in that situation become weak and easily dominated. That's the theory anyway, I think it's interesting given the struggle of men and women to redefine our roles especially since WW2; I'm not saying they can't be redefined but that this conditioning wasn't built in a day.

I agree with you that feminism should mean that women find their own way to express themselves and wield equal power in whatever strata of society - unfortunately I don't think Buffy is any sort of a model for this. She's a disaster area - of course so much more because of the type of power she has - but she simply does not know how to BE powerful. She's either guilty about it, or it makes her hard and lacking in discrimaination IMO. She has not really assumed that position of a slayer, assumed it as part of her being; instead she wears it like an uncomfortable piece of clothing that she wants to take off. Some sympathy should be due there perhaps, because she was 'called' and didn't choose the job, although...it could be karma, in that she 'deserved' it as the fruit of previous lives! *g*

Stella, not fully scrolled.

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Noetic Concordance says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:36:11 2002 62.188.51.83)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 19:36:50 2002

Nikka': Well, as long as it fits is the main criteria. And as happy as my Mother is that her forty year old daughter is finally getting married, seeing me walk down the aisle naked would probably push her over the edge completely...mother inlaw also! Now there's an idea!

Old One: RLMAO!!!And sage words from you as usual! *kiss*

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Safarigirl says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:34:27 2002 209.87.236.146)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 19:36:39 2002

KAM If so, then I have a sneaky suspicion I've forgotten what it was I said :).

greeneyesI suppose I should...

Artie/Phoenix So what exactly is 'Fantasy Buffy'? Are we talking an RPG, or a betting pool (as in pick your team members and see who gets the most points at the end of the season)?

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Caspian says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:31:17 2002 216.221.81.98)

Caspian materializes in a cloud of green smoke. His dark green hair an beard are smoking slightly, as he walks across the room, and reclines on a couch. It has been a long time since he was here. He looks around.

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:31:07 2002 66.170.160.203)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 19:37:21 2002

Hello again,

Safarigirl: I have the sneaky suspicion I forgot to answer something you said the other day...

Miko: Well, I hear what you are saying, but I think Willow's actions were wholly selfish, and potentially very harmful. Not only that--violating the sanctity of a person's memory is an EXTREMELY serious violation in my way of thinking.
I think Willow's actions didn't take into account Tara's feelings, needs, or personal privacy in the slightest, and as such was an act wholly unworthy of a member of a relationship.
I don't think it is a matter of diabolical or innocent, but rather one of consideration. Willow had ZERO consideration for Tara in this. This type of violation in my view is completely irreconcilable with love.

I am afraid I have to disagree with your assessment of the initial interaction between Tara and Willow. Tara showered praise on her, and it seemed pretty clear that Willow was NOT more powerful, and certainly not as knowledgable about magic as Tara was. This seemed like unwarranted praise, which bordered on being creepy.

I have a few questions? You said I don't know, but Willow's strength certainly brought
mucho goodness out of Tara and gave Tara strength in return. Sounds pretty healthy to me, at least initially.
What "strength" are you referring to that Willow has? My this time I think that any strength Willow once had was pretty much gone, and her entire self image depended on others--naturally Tara's near-worship of her was something Willow greatly desired. What mucho goodness came because of this? And what strength did Tara get with Willow? The only hint of strength she really showed was when she overcame her fascination with Willow, and told her like it is. Oddly enough, upon her return, she almost immediately betrays a confidence that Buffy shared with her.

My base point--a relationship that is so one-sided isn't a healthy one. Add in the actual harmful actions on Willow's part, and it doesn't even come close. My opinion.

SPOILER TOPIC: I haven't really paid too much attention, but despite anything anyone has said--I think the point is this. We are inbetween seasons. What else COULD a spoiler at this point be other than for a future episode? It seems like a pretty safe assumption that it MUST be about the future, else it wouldn't be a spoiler.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:30:30 2002 24.64.223.203)

Noetic Concordance - ggod luck finding a dress. :0) I think it's just a sign of common sense. The wedding can be anti climatic, but ~~the cake and holiday~~ the life after is what is important

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Batcat says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:23:55 2002 195.93.33.164)

S2K- who has e-'s Quizlet

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?
Hot choccy!

2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?
Oh these little wax bead things. They were really cute but I didn't know when I would use them

3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?
The plot of Kate & Leopold. I can't remember it. I just remember it being cr*p. Watch it if you don't belive me!

4) Quote a random song lyric that pops into your head.
'The weak will seek the weaker till they've broken through' - "Simon", Lifehouse (No name face) I always have it stuck in my head!

5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book?
"Microwave cookery"
"WHAT YOUR HANDWRITING SAYS ABOUT YOU"
"How to ram a dagger shaped piece of pineapple up"- Oh no that one's too rude. *eg*

BC
mrow..sleepy

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Nikka' says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:15:59 2002 64.14.248.62)

Noetic Concordance - WHAT?!?! You don'[t want to look like an angelfood cake? Or a plum pudding? *g* I know that when I finally get married, I'll probably wear something formal and beaded as opposed to a traditional "wedding" dress. My sister actually found soemthing along these lines which she likes adn said "Mom would throw a fit" My answer was, It we are getting married, we could walk down the aisle naked and Mom would still be thrilled!

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Noetic Concordance says:
(Wed Jul 17 19:08:20 2002 62.188.51.83)

Nikka': *G* Yup, that seems to be most peoples reaction! Oh well, me and the geezer are off to see a woman about a dress tomorrwo, I'll wear whatever fits basically...as long as its not a puff ball!!!! To be honest, I wasn't gonna wear bridal dress...but HE made a fuss! Men...what are they like?!

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Xanderella says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:56:21 2002 207.172.11.232)

Immortal: I'm firmly with Leather Jacket, paks, nails and Kansas on this one. Simple labels - containing either episode title and/or season and episode number; or 'Future spoilers' are a common courtesey and have pretty much become the prevailing method at the Beta.

I do agree with you that speculation (that is spoiler-free) should not have to be put in black font. I think it discourages conversation to hide these discussions. However, if a spoiled poster (such is often the case for me) is doing the speculating - the spec should be in black font and well marked as to whether or not actual spoilers are included in the spec. For example, I'm spoiled on a point about Spike right now. If I am speculating about Willow's fate, and Spike doesn't play into it - there's no harm there. If Spike were to play into Willow's fate (erm...I'm making this all up - I have no idea) - well then my spec. label should make it clear I am a tainted speculator. (e.g. - Speculation on Willow based on spoilers for Spike in S7)

Most of us who do read spoilers, will label our speculation to let the really pristine, like abt know whether it's safe for them to read or not. Your method requires a lot of guessing and is really more suited to a private discussion - or perhaps to a threaded board, where the thread itself can have guidelines on what's allowable. This is a quasi-public board, and a linear board to boot, so the things we post here are available to all. Putting unmarked future spoilers in spoiler font because you know your intended recipient's opinion on reading spoilers, excludes everyone else. If something is for KAM's eyes only, why not email him? If it's for KAM but you think it's contains at least a drop of substance that might entertain/interest/enrage other posters, that's the stuff you put on a board. And taking 5 seconds to label it is only common courtesey.

I'd rather take the extra seconds to label stuff, than to lose one spoiler-averse poster from the Beta. Wouldn't you? And if push came to shove, I'm much rather lose someone who wouldn't bother to label stuff, than someone who simply wants to be surprised. I'm not telling you what to do, but I am telling you I think the approach you've detailed is unfriendly and unwelcoming to those posters who want to learn the plot when they watch the actual show.

/spoiler ho - but I've had all my shots

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Dachelle says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:53:40 2002 128.83.38.34)

Lunchtime drive-by....

Jocasta - halfrek is sending me some pics from JM's appearance at Shore Leave....I will place them on the site as soon as I get them. I also expect that the DMBBC site will have some reportage about Shore Leave whenever those attending have sufficiently recovered to compose reports!
I sympathize with your plight....I've also missed out on seeing him this year :-(

Watcher's Pet - Happy to read that you've made it back safely and had such a good time! Sorry I've been busy with moving and haven't had time to put up any new pics for the Slideshow in the time you've been gone, but I expect to have several site updates soon! Will you be contributing another con report this time?

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Nikka' says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:53:20 2002 64.14.248.62)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 19:06:25 2002

Took the original post off as, once I thought about it, I feel that it might have been a little inappropriate for a family board.

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Nikka' says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:47:54 2002 64.14.248.62)

S2K's Quizlet

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?
Hot coco, please..

2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?
Mod Amethist ring. Can you see me in anything "Mod"?

3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?
Yeah Gods and Little Fishes! Too many to count! But oh how fun!

4) Quote a random song lyric that pops into your head.
It's a beautiful day...

5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book?
Toastmasters book of quotes

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Mrs.Beasley says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:44:49 2002 205.132.76.26)

angelparis: You're up awfully early aren't you? What is it, about 6-7 AM Thursday.

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Toni says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:40:39 2002 213.122.60.212)

S2K's Quizlet

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?
i just eated my tea....a banana split would go down well right now though *drooool*

2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?
An extremely short and TIGHT denim mini skirt...followed by a pair of extremely TIGHT jeans, then I got skeered about the size of my thighs LOL

3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?
Just one?! Hmmmm, Final Fantasy *g* But it still rocks ;)

4) Quote a random song lyric that pops into your head.
You got me feeling hella good, so let's just keep on dancing...go on what's the song then!??! *g*

5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book?
I remember at school in Year 10 when we all got new text books for Biology, they had shiny new covers and full colour pictures...they were really interesting, for texts books!! The entire class spent at least 30 mins reading them LOL

*lurk*

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Nikka' says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:38:31 2002 64.14.248.62)

*a little scrolled*

Noetic Concordance - You don't like to live on the edge, do you? NO DRESS! *g*

angelparis - Welcome. The water is generally fine. So feel free to jump in whenever you feel like! Or start a controversy - trust me, sometimes that is the only way to get noticed ;-)

Major Wiggins - *BAP* because I'm sure you have done something to deserve it!

Hi! to everyone else!

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Noetic Concordance says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:33:54 2002 62.188.51.83)

Old One: I am fine thanks for asking. Three weeks to my wedding, still haven't bought the dress! *sigh* Basically, I am looking forward to my cake and ~~holiday~~ honeymoon more than any thing else..is that a sign of age??

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:24:39 2002 209.195.160.44)

KAM - Not blowing you off, i
swear! *G*

I've read some of your posts regarding
Willow this season, so i know where
you're coming from on that point of
view, so the only comment i'll make is
on this - you said,

"As far as W/T...well,
I wouldn't exactly categorize that as a
healthy relationship either. It involves
abuse, refusal to deal with the issues
surrounding that abuse, as well as an
inability to really be honest with each
other (basically due to Willow's
issues), and finally it was a relationship
from day one that had one partner
(Willow) in a superior position to the
other"

I think the "abuse" postion is a
teeny bit harsh - Willow was terribly
misguided and selfish in manipulating
Tara's mind for her own peace of mind
(ending the fight between them both)
but to me abuse is more a "deliberate
and wanton" act against someone,
knowing it will cause them harm.

That's not an excuse for Willow's actions, but i
think her reasons were a little more
innocent and not so diabolical towards
Tara. Besides, Tara DID leave Willow,
till Willow could come to her senses.
Being in love isn't easy (duh!) and i
think the W/T relationship showed that
to be the case with them.

I also think the honesty did come out, later and not
sooner, but, again the theme for this
season was "Oh, Grow Up!" and i must
say that for Willow to grow, she
needed to go down that path, as harsh
as it was.

Finally, the "superior position" you stated, well, Tara was
initially attracted to Willow in the Wicca
group because Willow wanted to
explore and experiment with magic, in
fact, in "Hush", Tara went looking for
Willow specifically because Willow
was into magic, Tara also said she
liked the fact that Willow was so strong
in magic-stuff, is that Willow being
"superior" to Tara? I don't know, but
Willow's strength certainly brought
mucho goodness out of Tara and gave
Tara strength in return. Sounds pretty
healthy to me, at least initially.

*sigh* i miss Tara...

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greeneyes says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:23:53 2002 65.80.70.136)

safarigirl psstt...ask Artie and phoenix about the fantasy buffy game. ;)

is it time for spoilers already? Yay! That means we're getting closer to a new season. :)

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:23:25 2002 131.137.245.199|131.137.245.198)

Noetic Concordance - heyas!! Small and intimate. We're going to see the marriage commissioner this afternoon, in fact, to try and sort out some details. :0) How are you doing?

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Mrs.Beasley says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:20:13 2002 205.132.76.26)

angelparis Welcome to the Beta! We have a goodly number of Aussies and some Kiwis. There used to be a Location List run by SweePer, but I don't have the url here at work, and if you do a Ctrl+F search for The Age Game you can link to a site that shows the range of ages here. And Tana and or Allyson Has a link to a Web Safety site.

Beware of all pschologists giving advice.

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Safarigirl says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:19:01 2002 209.87.236.146)

S2K's Quizlet:
1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?

Watermelon.

2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?

A gorgeous flowered cotton sundress that I saw in the Bay. It was too young for me.

3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?

Any of the Austin Powers movies - but then, they're not meant to be believeable. For movies that are supposed to be believeable but aren't, I'd have to say Pearl Harbour takes the cake. Not the part about the war, but the parts about what happens to Ben Affleck's character - it just isn't possible.

4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head.

Well you know/just what you do to me/the way you move/soft and slippery/Cut the night/just like a razor/girl you stop/ and that's the danger ... But can you tell me the song and the band? *g*

5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book? cos they all seem pretty boring to me... *g*

Yup, the CSP Reference of Physics and Chemistry produces electrifying reactions in it's readers. :)

LittleFearDemon Actually, I saw a rumour that Amber would be coming back as a staff writer for BTVS. She's apparently written a Willow/Tara comic already, so no reason why she couldn't do the job...I think it would be cool to have someone who's played one of the characters write an ep or two - different perspective.

No one's answered my "Fantasy Buffy" question yet, I see. I still don't know what exactly it was that I voted for...

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Noetic Concordance says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:18:43 2002 62.188.51.83)

Hey there Bronzers!

Firstly...

Old One: Hey there old friend! 30th Aug huh! So, what kind of shindig you having? Lots of peeps, or small and intimate?

Puckles: *blushes*….what can I say! Hope I live up to expectations! did I really say that??!!

Jamboski: *smooch* You is always an exception!

Genevieve’s Lucie: No hurry sweets, you take all the time….after all, you had to wait long enough!!!

Jamboski: *sigh*….well, if it was from Illusio_5 then yes, that is me! Couldn’t you have just opened it and see! I was pretty sure that I titled it ‘Noetic Concordance says Hi’….oh well, best laid plans and all!

Secondly....

Big midweek SO's to the following peeps:

Algerina, AndeeH(faithfull one), AussieBullDog(Good dog!), bhd, Blade-The Vampire Hunter, BlackMajickBitsy, BritSlayer, Christoher Marlowe, Comteacher, Count Zero, Covergirl(spesh person), Darkguardian, DeAn (pretty boy girl), Dellraven, Django(don’t disappear again!), dualslayers, Everdawn, Fantasma, Freaking_Amazing_Witch, Genevieve’s Lucie(buddy), Joey Emma, Jamboski (nice guys are the best!), Kat, Kat Beck, kronos, Leather Jacket, LenS, Major Wiggins, Malum_Forma, miller’s angel, Morella, Natasha, newt(buddy), NYX, Oblivia, Old Man Fan, Old One(the speaker of kind words), OzLady, Paks, Phil PhuD, Princess of Darkness, Prince of Lunacy, Prophet 6, Puckles (still a pretty face!), Rainbow, Rikki, Serina, The Great One, The Host, Scourge(favourite barman), Slayerette2K, SpikeNip, Sepical K, tiggy3323, The Stage(miss her presence), Toni, toscem, valMichael , Vilia, Watcher’s Pet, Xandarella, Y_slaybelle

Off to scroll....

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IMMORTAL says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:16:12 2002 24.47.135.109)

nails- You actually proved my point. I'm friends with KAM. I know he doesn't mind spoilers. Regardless, it's addressed directly to him. It's in spoiler text which by nature suggest it contains spoilers. You were unsure and did not highlight. That's the best way to handle it. Now if KAM read my post and did not want to be spoiled, he'd have every right to be upset. I directed his attention there.

And for the record I don't think things of a speculative nature should be spoiler texted but I do it as a common courtesy.

paks- Not going to argue the fact that it smart to label your spoilers even if the only reason is that you limit the people willing to read your post if you don't and that assuming you're posting because you want to engage in a dialog that would achieve the opposite effect.

But I have to reitterate. It's the middle of the summer. News is leaking out left and right. Use common sense and don't read unlabeled spoilers.

To sum- it's in the poster's best interest to label their spoilers as to best ensure a dialog with as many perspective people as possible. Readers should not read unlabeled spoilers because it's better to be safe than sorry and they should be upset with no one but themselves if they do.

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Major Wiggins says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:08:05 2002 68.70.95.85)

Dudley: Surprised you heard about the Critter Killers ... We were one-hit wonders.

Wiggins.

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:04:30 2002 131.137.245.199|131.137.245.197)

angelparis - that's often the best way, read others posts and then when you feel comfortable with the place, start posting to people. Most of them will respond to your posts :0)

Dudley - I think you just got booted out of the MENSA society.. Mesna?? as if.. tee hee

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paks says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:02:58 2002 24.52.23.128)

Butting in on the spoiler fonting topic.

IMMORTAL, Kansas, et al I think it is only common sense that the spoiler be labeled as clearly as possible. IMMORTAL is right, generally when folks are talking about Buffy on a day after a new ep has aired, it can be assumed that it is about the new ep. But discussing future events is different. Much of it is based purely on the posters own speculations and what they want to happen. Sometimes that is based on spoilers read at other sites, or interviews read at reputable sites as well. Personally, I think it only common courtesy to take that extra couple of seconds to be more detailed in labelling one's post. I am a bit anal rententive that way *g*. However, it is not a requirement of this site. Bascially those that wish to remain unspoiled like myself, since I will have UPN when the new season starts and I can watch the episode live (as it were) instead of relying on the wonderful newt (*smooooTch* HI NEWT) to tape it and mail it to me. will quite likely scroll past some posts. It would be a shame, to miss some wonderfully creative speculative discussion, because one wishes to remain unspoiled.

I am in no way trying to tell anyone how or what to post. I just wanted to add my two cents.

/two cents

really need to pack now

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Aramina says:
(Wed Jul 17 18:00:34 2002 213.122.29.140)

Oh I haven't been by for a while.

Leather Jacket Yes I suppose you're right about as long as they keep all the Buffy lore in right. But I don't think that Joss would ever let them make a movie if he didn't have a helluva lot more control than he did in the original.

genrefan Oh I hadn't thought of that, Faith the Movie, I would liike to see more about her past and how she ended up on her own in Sunnydale. That way we could have the main characters, but they wouldn't have to botch up any arcs.

I can hear the pitter patter of tiny feet...........guess the dog's in the house again. And she's hungry.

I've also decided that kids are evil. I still can't help but feel intimidated when I have to walk past a big group of them, no matter how old they are.

Going to feed the dog....

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Safarigirl says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:59:18 2002 209.87.236.146)

yay gypsyrat!

Happy Birthday Old One's Oldest & Slayed Soul!

deadguy It was Oz, then Tara, for now it's Anya, but going with the theme here, I'm gonna say the next level-headed member of the group will be whoever Willow dates next. :)

Mensagirl: Never Mind the Bollocks, it's The Sex Pistols.

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Zeus says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:57:40 2002 152.163.213.63|152.163.188.65)

Morella's Quiz

1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”?
-After reading the Kama Sutra and calling Cordy up to his office. Thats the real reason has been gone...she is still recovering.

2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her?
-LeggoLand.

3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale?
-Not enough!

4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants. That pants I had about the pants ... It came true.
-Xander after his usual kinky romp with Anya in the basement of the Magic Box.

5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address?
-1701 E Paramount Way, UPN CA.

6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, Killing is a Vampires?
-Stutter much?

7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered?
-why were they coloring the hair on Ox's. Isn't that kinda cruel to the animal...unless Sunnydale High changed its mascot.

8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major?
-He's a college student....so it would be
Major = Hotties & Parties
Year = whenever he runs out of tuition money.

9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl?
-Morella the Wise

10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress?
-CLOSED FOR FDA VIOLATIONS!

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greeneyes says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:55:33 2002 65.80.70.136)

ozlady glad to know that the Dr. is fine. {hugs} to you
morella i'm good. trying to lurk abit more. life with kids is busy. lol
s2k hi sweetie.

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dudley says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:51:39 2002 24.53.225.117)

quick driveby......

MESNAgirl

Mr Giggles and the Critter Killers (Major Wiggins, Reyna, Dogemeat, & Algerina)?

The Vienna Boys Choir?

Ok I've hit the Wall, I'm going to take a vaction on The Dark Side of the Moon, if I can get the Time and Money. So Pink Floyd.....

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IMMORTAL says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:50:39 2002 24.47.135.109)

Kansas- Actually it's traditional to incorporate a witty saying with your spoiler label. ex. "I can't believe it's not SPOILERS."

Otherwise, how can other posters know what to highlight and what not to? I say common sense. During the season posts labeled spoilers on a Wed would suggest they are talking about the previous night's ep. On July 17th what could possibly be in spoiler text other than something that pertains to the upcoming season?

In addition, if you check the FAQ it is not required that spoilers be categorized.

If someone is THAT dedicated to remaining unspoiled, what in the blue hell are they reading unlabeled spoilers? You should be upset with yourself for highlighting the text not for someone else for not categorizing the spoiler.

Sure it's a common courtesy to label a spoiler but by the same token I won't get upset if someone doesn't.

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OzLady says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:48:15 2002 172.156.122.51)

Oh gosh! I am sorry if I worried anyone!! Dr Mr OzLady is *fine!* You all are so sweet for worrying but believe me, if he weren't I wouldn't spend time posting! :-) Basic story is he was rear-ended at a stop light at about 1:30 AM, coming home from work. Guy was from TX, driving a rental and admitted he'd had a couple of drinks. Sigh... did my naive husband call the cops? No, because (and this is a quote), "I didn't smell alcohol on him, so I figured he was okay." *rolls eyes only semi-indulgantly* Of course, the guy called this AM to make sure Dr Mr OzLady was still okay AND to make sure we had his info. correct, but still... anyway, we went to the appraiser who said they'd get back to us and then they will either work on the car or pay us and we will get a new one. The sad thing is that Dr Mr OzLady really only needs a "crap car" to drive to work (he works at a clinic in a not-so-nice area) and to cart the kids around locally; for anything more than that, we use Ruffy (my car, not RTBS the poster after which it is named!). SO, having to get a new car now would NOT be a good thing as this one would have been paid off this November after 5 years. Sigh... well, at least Dr Mr OzLady is okay.

~OzLady, more scrolling in store..

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Moriah says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:47:19 2002 64.170.85.244)

Hey all!

A little announcement..

Viva Las Buffy!

The 2002 "Come As You Aren't" Party is in full swing!
Would you like the chance to meet other Bronzers? Or have the chance to win some really lame door prizes? Or the opportunity to just get away for a while?
Then Check it out at Viva Las Buffy!
Sign up today!

- M

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MLM says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:43:56 2002 192.67.48.22)

MensaGirl The Hit your Thumb with a Hammer Adbabs!
This inn't very funny subject somehow. Deep Floyd, Pink Purple, Wearin' o' the Green?
Elvis has left the building!

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:42:57 2002 209.195.160.44)

abt - Regarding Spike as a
"drug" for Buffy - ICK! Too close to Buffy
needing a Spike "injection"... *blah*

i know, i know... "Family Board!"

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angelparis says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:41:58 2002 203.109.250.96)

Old One

Thanks for the welcome!!!! I'll probably just trawl around for a bit then start posting.

nails

I liked Giles but he wasn't one of my favorites...I actually cried when he left in Tabula Rasa. I heard that he comes back in the last episode but I could be wrong (don't tell me...I try to stay as spoiler-free as possible).

morella

I hated "Restless" when it first aired, but the more times I watched it, the more I liked it, and now it's one of my favorites. I liked the scene where Giles and Spike are on the swings like father and son. After watching "Tabula Rasa", "Restless" is even funnier. I loved Rupert & Randy Giles :lol:

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nails says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:36:48 2002 149.155.96.1)

IMMORTAL There's a difference between information on what will happen in future shows and speculation as to what might happen based on what has already aired. I'm trying to avoid the former, but would be interested in reading the latter. People tend to spoiler-font both of them (although I'm not sure speculation really warrants it). So, for example, I feel safe reading abt's speculative posts, but I'm not going to highlight what you wrote to KAM because I don't know whether it contains something that happens in the new season.

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:33:56 2002 62.253.64.4)

Miko, Jocasta - I've seen Spike compared to being like heroin for Buffy, but to me it seems more like some sort of prescription drugs, which she needed at first, but then got dependent on/addicted to, or something.

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Kansas says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:33:24 2002 198.173.24.130)

IMMORTAL - It's traditional to categorize spoilers; always has been... plus it's just common sense: You put "Spoiler for BTVS S6 Finale" for the benefit of folks who haven't seen it. On the other hand, if you have advance knowledge of S7 that everyone doesn't have, you need to mark it accordingly before posting it.

Otherwise, how can other posters know what to highlight and what not to?

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Genevieve's Lucie says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:28:05 2002 64.41.49.133)

Heading off to whup. Have a great day everybody!

Ooh, am I too late? MENSAgirl: Pink Floyd!

Later.

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:25:36 2002 66.170.160.203)

Hello again,

abt: Well, it is hard to say what MIGHT have happened, but it is a possibility. It is also a possibility that she wouldn't have delved into self-hatred, and would have realized what she finally did in the end--that there WAS something to live for--even if it was only for Dawn. Running to hide from her problems with Spike certainly delayed the more positive place she arrived at.

Now, how LIKELY is her being dead if not going to Spike? I see nothing that indicated she was trying to kill herself (she did, and Dawn convinced her otherwise) again.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:24:39 2002 131.137.245.198)

It's midweek, so here are a couple of light hearted attempts at humour to get you through until the end of the week

1. An attractive blonde lady calls 911, late one night, on her cell
phone to report that her car has been broken into.

She is hysterical as she explains her situation to the dispatcher. "They've stolen the stereo, the steering wheel, the brake pedal and even the accelerator!" she cried.

The dispatcher says, "Stay calm. An officer has been dispatched and is on the way."

A few minutes later, the officer radios in "Disregard."

"She got in the back seat by mistake."

2. In the hospital the relatives gathered in the waiting room, where their family member lay gravely ill. Finally, the doctor came in looking tired and sombre.

"I'm afraid I'm the bearer of bad news," he said as he surveyed the worried faces. "The only hope left for your loved one at this time is a brain transplant. It's an experimental procedure, semi-risky and you will have to pay for the brain yourselves."

The family members sat silent as they absorbed the news.
After a great length of time, someone asked, "Well, how much does a brain cost?"

The doctor quickly responded, "$5,000 for a male brain and $200 for a female brain."

The moment turned awkward. Men in the room tried not to smile, avoiding eye contact with the women, but some actually smirked. A man, unable to control his curiosity, blurted out the question everyone wanted to ask, "Why is the male brain so much more?"

The doctor smiled at the childish innocence and so to the entire group he said, "It's just standard pricing procedure. We have to mark down the price of the female brains, because they've actually been used." grrrrrr

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IMMORTAL says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:20:43 2002 24.47.135.109)

Leather Jacket- We have to categorize spoilers now??? "... to show those of us who want to remain unspoiled that we shouldn't highlight the text." So you want to remain unspoiled but you want to read spoilers????

Aren't there countries that are whole seasons behind? This means just about anything show related can potentially be a spoiler to someone.

Maybe we should color code it like the Homeland Security terrorist threat. "The following is a category blue spoiler."

I say enter the spoiler zone at your own risk.

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:20:37 2002 209.195.160.44)

abt - Oh! Ok, well,
KAM and i were actually
discussing Smallville initially, then it
kinda warped into a Buffy/Violence/Sex
topic, y'know how it goes...

But while i think to a point it was sorta
helpful for Buffy to get involved with
Spike, their sexual escapades were
taken, IMO, to the extreme,
violence-wise. I don't necessarily
agree that Buffy was suicidal, very
despondent and depressed at being
"back" and Spike helped her (in her
mind) "feel" again, but remember in
Normal Again, after all the Spuffy stuff,
she still prefered to be insane (or
normal, depending on which reality
you believe) than being alive. In the
end though, she chose her friends, the
people who love her, and not just to
"get" something from her, like Spike
was doing, again, my opinion.

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:16:03 2002 194.117.133.182)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 17:17:45 2002

abt: I don't think she was suicidal, perhaps that depressed that she was just going through the motions. She would have been happy to die, but I don't class that as the same as suicidal. She was willing to change places with Dawn.

Spike willed her to choose life (OMWF) before any serious 'using' went on... she used him to confide in, yes, but nothing more before that point, so I don't think suicidal!

She was numb and confused but I reckon that was more to do with loss ...not leaving 'heaven' - but the fact that there she said she knew everything was alright. Back again, everything wasn't. She was aware again of the danger, need to fight evil, that she had lost her mom (she said she new Joyce was alright when she was in 'heaven', maybe doubt crept in about afterlife etc. when she came back).

She was tired and numb, unwilling to pick up the strands and soldier on. Everyone expected her to 'get on with life', except Spike who simply listened and made it obvious that he was totally 'into her' as Dawn would say!

Jocasta

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:12:49 2002 195.92.168.169)

angelparis Welocme to the Bronze Beta :0) Enjoy your posting. Most of your favorite episodes are mine also, apart from "Restless" I am afraid, I hated it. Sorry about that. But the others are great ones. Especially "Amends" and Grad 2 :0)

greeneyes Hello there, good to see you :0)

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:06:05 2002 62.253.64.4)

Miko - she was all suicidal. Using Spike seemed to be a break from that for her, at least for a while. So, while it's not good to use Spike, maybe it kept her alive?

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nails says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:01:20 2002 149.155.96.1|194.82.103.71)

deadguy Spike. I'm sure you could balance all sorts of stuff on there.

MENSAgirl The Screaming Abdabs

angelparis You got something against Giles? ;o)

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:01:05 2002 209.195.160.44)

abt - You asked: "if Buffy hadn't
turned to Spike and used him, might
she be dead?"

What do you mean? are you talking
about Once More, With Feeling, or
what - i don't understand...

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 17:00:09 2002 195.92.168.169)

S2K Quizlet: Hello there

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy? none today thanks
2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you? a Lotus Sports car “g” which was definitely not me, as I cannot afford one LOL, well I only saw it and liked it
3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history? nearly all of them
4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head. my minds gone blank now LOO
5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book? cos they all seem pretty boring to me... *g* yes

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:56:49 2002 213.38.43.179)

BatCat, I think I got my email sorted.. *fingers crossed*

S2K's Quizlet:

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy? jelly
2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you? breast implants
3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history? how the Americans won WWII all by themselves *snerk*
4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head. no.
5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book? cos they all seem pretty boring to me... *g* Psychology ones can be fun.. so can ones on aerodynamic flight.. as opposed to unaerodynamic flight, which is like throwing a brick off the roof *g*

~chris
/mrow!

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Neonate says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:53:20 2002 165.112.86.6)

And I had a nightmare last night that keeps coming back to haunt me... :(
Let go of your nightmares, they are only dreams.

Quizlet:

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?
Lunchtime--Lentil soup
2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?
A PS2, but then it was for my kids.
3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?
Independence day? Too many to choose from.

4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head.
I've got a bike
you can ride it if you like
it's got a basket a bell that rings and things that make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could,
but I borrowed it.

5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book?
The History of Refernece Books--all about dictionaries and encyclopedias and atlases, etc. It's fascinating

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:50:53 2002 131.137.245.197|131.137.245.199)

miller's angel - you'd think she'd be smart enough, eh? She is a MENSAGirl after all. :0)

S2K - ask your parents, maybe they're old enough to remember it.. It's just a song that I remember as a kid, well, that line anyway... tee hee

angelparis - I've been hooked on both shows since the beginning too. This is a great place to discuss them, lots of folks, myself not included, get into very in-depth discussions about each and every episode. I just like to hang around here and talk with people and see what they are discussing. :0) Enjoy yourself and welcome to this place.

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Lazy Girl says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:50:25 2002 207.43.106.217)

Lunch time drive by…

Genevieve's Lucie
Sending some good car vibes your way.

Leather Jacket
Could I get back to you on that? I believe I’ll try to figure out something on my own dip free. Thanks. *g*

The Partyman
Happy Birthday you! Nice to see ya even if it was just for a second or three.

Spikmeister
One of my IT peeps uses MSN’s IM. I know we don’t have a proper firewall, but am not sure whether or not we have proxies. Not my area, so I’ve never looked. Have you ever had to man a computer helpdesk? Some of these people must have brain connections to the 1800’s. The questions and/or statements they ask are way out there. Hopefully this is my last week of being helpdesk chic! *g*

superrmk
Oh, so your life is reality based and mine is not? lol I’ll have to get back to you on that. *g* I didn’t say I loved being in IT. Where’d you pull that one from? *g*

For a scrolling Happy...Will shoot an e your way after work.
For a scrolling Uberman...Hey you!
For a scrolling Turk...Miss ya!

SO’s (and RSO’s if you deserve them eg) to Zeus, Yummy, Yelowsub, Y_slaybelle (Crazy fruit pie lady!), Wyndchyme (Queen of fanfic), wolfguard, white wings, UrbanLeo, uca72, Uberman (Boys is evil!!), Turk (Hugs), Toni, tiggy , The Partyman, Thoin, TAMZ, The Host, TB, superrmk (Champion of chandeliers), Stitch, squireboy (Roomie!), SpikeNip, Spikmeister, Slayerette 2K, slayerdaddy, Scourge (Say country please! g), Rikki, paksenarrion, Old One, OldManFan (Bashful, blond god), ojagwers, numba1buffyfan, Neonate, MrsBigpileofdust, Morella, miller's angel, Mia, Mar (The alias transformer g), Major Wiggins, Mab (You lurking? Come play!), Lilangel, Jovi, jitsudude (Domo arigato gozaimashita, Sensei), Irene Adler, Helygen (One who drools for Angel), Happy (Your alias always makes me smile), gordy, Genevieve’s Lucie, genrefan, fuzzywuzzy (Nerd slayer), Falco (Fellow monkey!), Dunlin, dudley (Punster), Dirty Socks, Dellraven, Deadboy, dayzee, Cricket, Bullseye, AussieBullDog (You so wish I’d tap out! g), Archaic (Can I have your autograph? g), Algerina

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:47:17 2002 209.195.160.44)

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:45:13 2002 62.253.64.4)

speculation for s7, no spoiler, I hate spoilers. (oh, except spoiler for ATS3.19.)
5
4
3
2
1
I just saw ATS3.19 The Price. Same as in Afterlife and Superstar, some monster thing gets made as the side-effect of dark magic. So I'm wondering if something absolutely huge is going to get made as a side-effect of Willow's use of all the dark magic at the end of s6? She had all the stuff from the Magic Box and Rack.

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2
3
4
5

I hate spoilers, so don't tell me anything, don't even hint or comment, if you know any spoilers!

Spoilers are evil.

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angelparis says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:45:09 2002 203.109.250.96|203.109.250.99)

Hi everyone!!

I'm a newbie to the board. I'm angelparis from Australia. I've been a Buffy fan from the very first episode 5 years ago, and I also love Angel since it started 3 years ago.

My favorite Buffy eps are Passion, Becoming Pt 2, Amends, The Prom, Grad Day Pt 2, Hush, Something Blue, Restless, Fool For Love, The Body, The Gift, OMWF, Tabula Rasa, & Seeing Red. We haven't finished seeing season 3 here yet, so I can't comment on the final 3 episodes of S6.

My favorite Angel eps are IWRY, Somnambulist, 5 x 5, To Shanshu In LA, AYNOHYEB, Dear Boy, Darla, The Trial, Reunion, Reprise, Dead End, There's No Place Like Pltz Glrb, Billy, Lullaby, Birthday, Waiting In The Wings, Loyalty, Sleep Tight, & Forgiving. We've still got 2 episodes to go for S3.

My favorite characters are Angelus (I can't get enough of him), Angel, Spike, Buffy, Cordelia, Xander, & Willow.

Anyhoo, I just thought I'd take the time to introduce myself and say 'hi'. I hope I get to know most of you over time.

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S2K says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:44:28 2002 212.69.226.29)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 16:45:07 2002

From scrollage...

EverDawn~~ The fence was put up to seperate two warring factions, neither of which are exactly blameless... and, TMorel has gators?! *big, guileless smile* Watch it... I will nearly always stand up for my man... *g* cc Meteor

aligator~~ You mentioned it, yeah. And, damnit! :( *sigh* Oh, well... One day!

And from now...

Old One~~ And that song lyric was...? *g*

Boromir, Morella, miller's angel, greeneyes, Yummy, Y_slaybelle, Neonate~~ *wavies* :)

*poof!*

Meteor = *kiss*

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Neonate says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:43:07 2002 165.112.86.6)

Mensawishyouwereheregirl Pink Floyd.

Hi, Jenkins

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edel says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:41:15 2002 213.3.145.129)

Boromir I'd say Giles lost it for a second when he stabbed the mayor with a sword. His level headedness disappears when Buffy is threatened

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Natasha says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:39:21 2002 169.237.212.160)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 16:40:37 2002

First, the SO list: @lex H, belmont, bhd, Cashmere, Christopher Marlowe, Covergirl, Cushy, DaLilBit, Dogmeat, Downtown Apartments, Ergoshakes, Falco, Frodo, Genevieve’s Lucie, Genrefan, hostile 17, Kestra Troi, Leather Jacket, Lester 'Creep' Crawley, Lothar, Little Willow, Momkata, Morella, newt, Noetic Concordance, OldManFan, OldOne, OttsFivebyFive, paksenarrion, Phil PhuD, Prince Of Lunacy, puckles, Rogue, Spikmeister, Spike4Evr, Stake, tiggy, Wolfguard, Xanderella, DeKnight, Fury, Joss, Marti, and anyone else who I may have missed.

And now, scrollage...

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Leather Jacket says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:36:18 2002 63.214.223.103)

MensaGirl : That was Syd Barrett and the Screaming Abdabs.

LittleFearDemon : see below

ATTENTION, PLEASE
Please mark spoilers for future episodes with the phrase "Spoiler for Future Episodes" or something similar to show those of us who want to remain unspoiled that we shouldn't highlight the text. The spoiler font is a wonderful thing, but doesn't do anyone any good if we don't know what to uncover and what not to.
Thanks.

Gone for the day.

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greeneyes says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:28:22 2002 65.80.70.136)

everdawn things are of the good. :) {hugs{
morella hello :)

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:21:35 2002 63.10.156.126)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 16:22:47 2002

Old One hee hee..actually, i believe MensaGirl is smart enough to check out the times of each post. she will cleary see that your correct answer beat my edited correct answer. damn! *g*

*poof*

edited to pick up the tag..

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:14:59 2002 62.253.64.4)

KAM, Miko - if Buffy hadn't turned to Spike and used him, might she be dead?

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:13:38 2002 131.137.245.198)

miller's angel - don't cancel, you've been working so hard lately, you both probably just need some time away from things. It'll be good for you....

scullbomb - awwww, c'mon, quit it!! You're making me blush now.. shucks.. kicks the dirt, embarassedly

miller's angel - hey, you changed your answer!! if I come in second.. grrrrrr, there will be bappage!

S2K Quizlet:

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy? cereal and right now an iced cappucino... *slurp*
2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you? well, having bought multitudinous Hawaiin type shirts, not sure what would constitute, 'not me'
3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history? you mean they're not all based on factual incidents?
4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head. 'Norman, oooooo oooooo ooooooo'
5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book? I had some kids encyclopaedias, when I was a youngster, they were pretty interesting, actually

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:12:47 2002 195.92.168.171|195.92.168.164)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 16:13:34 2002

Old One
Keep up the good work with the Buffy Trivia, I am always glad to see you having a try at them. :0)

Algerina
It has been pretty hot here this past few days, airless with it, but I suppose it is better than all the rain we have had previously. The weeds were growing so quickly than we had a job to keep up with them LOL
We have some lovely Lilies out now in the pond, and some others, but I am not too sure of their names, which have just come out in the garden. They have big trumpet heads and smell beautiful.

valMichael
Hi! I had thought about posting the answers along with the scores, but then decided against it, as there is normally someone who ha s got all 10 correct, and the answers are already on the board “g” Lazy so and so I am “g” Algerina usually gets them all right, I wish I knew how she does it, as when it comes to answering quizzes myself I am totally useless. the same goes for some of my research into questions and answers for the quizzes “sigh”, :0( but I try

aligator
I shall be looking out for your go at todays quiz :0) I am glad you enjoyed doing yesterdays Trivia

Boromir
Go on have a go at the quiz :0) LOL your response re question 4 “eg” you are wicked.

sts
I have to agree with you there I used to feel the same way when I was at school, vacation is better any day. “g”. I wish you a good vacation hon. :0) How long to you have off school?

Jenkins
:0) Well I did kind of wonder where you had got too, I am glad you are still around :0)

Batcat
It sounds like fun, I am not keen on fast rides, but I do like Theme Parks, and I had not hear of this one, is it good? Worth a trip from Northamptonshire for sometime?

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Yummy says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:11:32 2002 130.47.34.6)

MENSAgirl - The Spice Girls

Cashmere - No mentioning sex when I'm around! Wahh! *g*

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Y_slaybelle says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:04:37 2002 202.81.160.23)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 16:10:57 2002

Yay, gypsyrat!

Birthday happies to Old One's Oldest & Slayed Soul!

Genevieve's Lucie Cool! Isn't that the one where the guy's extremely lucky all the time? And hey, funny thing I just thought about... we talk about "Closure" a lot, and I always say I'll make the time to rewatch it, but I never really have. (For months now!) I instinctively thought of watching on the weekend, but then I remembered I have a Twin Peaks marathon to go to. *g*

Beldin Happy postiversary! I remember the first people who talked to me too, and I'm forever grateful to them. I look forward to meeting everyone... (and I hope that it's soon!) Have a great time. (And no chair/Chair discussions!)

AussieBullDog Don't deny me Whiskers! I'm saving the Spam for the PBP. *g*

Rileyx3 It's all right. *g* Hope to catch you on the board again soon!

edited. damn the wiley tag gnome.

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Slayerette 2K says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:04:19 2002 212.69.226.29)

Ooh, stupid little old gossiping lady on my shift volunteering! Small talk sucks...

And I had a nightmare last night that keeps coming back to haunt me... :(

Quizlet:

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy?
2) What was the last thing you wanted to buy but knew it was just not you?
3) What's the most unbelievably unfeasible (sp?) plot in movie history?
4) Qoute a random song lyric that pops into your head.
5) Have you ever read an interesting reference book? cos they all seem pretty boring to me... *g*

Scrollage...

---O

Meteor = *snuggles*

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:02:41 2002 63.10.156.126)

Miko aw, thanks! actually hugs and good vibes will do just fine. :)

Old One hey..i realised while in the shower get your mind out of the gutter that my post needed some clarification. i have a terrible, terrible temper and say things in anger..i'm the cut my nose off to spite my face type of person, although you'd be amazed at how much progess i've made over the last few years..i was real skeery before! ;)
i'm just p*ssed off at him, not actively thinking of getting a divorce. in fact, i have been trying to fight off the urge i have to cancel a cabin i booked for us in september. because i know that in one week, i'll be calling back to see if it's still available..*shrug*
i'm a loser.

ok...i'm outta here, really

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Cashmere says:
(Wed Jul 17 16:00:30 2002 209.176.95.2)

MensaGirl The Sex Pistols

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:59:55 2002 195.92.168.164)

driving by

MENSA girl who are Pink Floyd?

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scullbomb says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:59:52 2002 205.188.196.36)

miller's angel Thanks for the *giggle* support! Yuck indeed!

Old One I'll gladly take 2nd to your humor any day of the week~You witty one you!

Hasta manana BBers~ Off to process some vitamin D before heading off to whup!

Long Live the Cheeseman!!!

scullbomb

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:54:51 2002 66.170.160.203)

Hello again,

IMMORTAL: Yeah, I saw it, but I will believe it when I see it on screen.

Miko: Yeah, that one was shown, but I didn't miss the blood.
As far as Spuffy--the sex scenes in my opinion didn't approach showing it in a bad light, nor did the audience seem to take it that way. In fact--they actually portrayed what passes for "intimate" conversation, which I believe attempted to portray it as "normal." If the writers were trying to clearly say that Spike and Buffy's relationship was bad, they really need to rethink their portrayals. At the very best it was a mixed bunch of signals.
As far as W/T...well, I wouldn't exactly categorize that as a healthy relationship either. It involves abuse, refusal to deal with the issues surrounding that abuse, as well as an inability to really be honest with each other (basically due to Willow's issues), and finally it was a relationship from day one that had one partner (Willow) in a superior position to the other. While it may be realistic, these things tend to dampen my ability to call it romantic. The same goes for S/B--I saw how Spike attempted (and did) manipulate Buffy. It doesn't seem however that it came across strong enough to the audience, because they were also fed the sex scenes which seemed in general to be portrayed as good for Buffy (if you don't bother to look beyond the micron-thick surface.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:53:21 2002 194.117.133.182)

Algerina: Bored now! (Broke up!!!...... hurrah)..... any limit on the number of entries?

Jocasta

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Batcat says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:52:08 2002 195.93.34.162|195.93.33.14)

Morella - LightWater Valley is near Rodley, Leeds. Its a big theme park. We went on all the scary rides. Muhahahaha..

Undead - oh no..Can't we be those teenage girls??

Meteor - mrow How's your email? Is it still being evil?

BC
*Bite me*

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:52:06 2002 209.195.160.44)

miller's angel - Regarding your
defense of me fee: Since you're having
a not so good day, will some **hugs
and good vibes** help out?

Alright, alright, that's cheap of me...
(sigh)... who should i make the check
out to? *grumble* *g*

MensaGirl - Pink Floyd and
Syd got the name from two US
bluesmen: Pink Anderson and Floyd
Council (sp)

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:49:31 2002 155.198.17.114)

MENSAgirl - don't know the answer to this... so I'll be 'sheep'girl and go with Pink Floyd. Note, I'm fairly sure it wasn't the Beatles...

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Major Wiggins says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:47:30 2002 68.70.95.85)

MENSAGroupieGirl:[/b] Pink Floyd.

Wiggnis.
LWT #13
Most Humble Member of The Nekkid Trio
Seek No Spoilers, Speak No Spoilers, Spread No Spoilers Member #9
Miss Kitty Fantastico for the Next Big Bad #94
Honorary Member of the DMBBC #7

Whoopin', hollerin' SO's to all including, but never limited to (see how the bane of inclusive language has even snaked its way into my vocabulary ... damn! ...): Adri, Alergina, Allyson, Aurora, AussieBullDog, Blade the Vampire Slayer, bruinbuffygirl, CarpeDi, Christopher Marlowe, Comteacher, Covergirl, Daschelle, Dellraven ,Denise, Ducky, Dudley, Evalie, ergoshakes, Freaking_Amazing_Witch, The Great One, Greeneyes, Halfrek, Irene Adler, Jocasta, kansas, Lazy Girl, LilAngel, Lil Pia, Lissie, Little Bubbles, Little Wiggins (Cousin!),Little Willow, Macheath, Malum_Forma, Mar, Meteor, Miller's Angel, Noetic Concordance, Nikka', Ojagwers, Old Man Fan, Old One, OttsFiveByFive, OzLady, LaTimide, Morella, notSoShyGirl, The Partyman, Phoenix, Rikki, Safarigirl, Scourge, Slayerdaddy, Slayerette2k, SlayerSteph aka The Roving Reporter, Spikemeister,Stitch, The Great One, Thoin, Toscem, Tralfamadore2001, Turk, White Wings,Wolfguard, Xanderella, Xanderific, Y_Slaybelle ...

RSO's to all those who SO'd me ('cause I ain't got no time for "Scrolling through the postings, reading all the poop...")
And a special VIP SO to:
Amber Benson ... wherever you are!

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:44:31 2002 63.10.156.126)

Old One hmmm..well, can you fix this? it is my 3rd wedding anniversary today and i'm thinking about getting a divorce.

MensaGirl edited my answer again for you this time w/ the correct answer...

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LittleFearDemon says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:43:20 2002 195.92.198.73)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 15:44:19 2002

MENSAgirl Pink Floyd...only know cuz of Syd Barret!

**How exactly could Amber come back as a DIFFERENT CHARACTER next season? Is it possible? But I don't think it would be a good thing, I mean,Amber's Tara in my eyes and she should stay that way. But I'm very excited about the possibility of Eliza coming back for a few...gotta love that actress!**

Smily...ooh, I have my snerk school disco tonight. Ho ho!

Bye all!

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:40:55 2002 131.137.245.199|131.137.245.197)

MENSAGirl - Pink floyd

miller's angel - I'm sorry to hear that.. *hugs* Anything I can do?

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Mrs.Beasley says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:40:31 2002 205.132.76.26)

MENSAgirl: The Sex Pistols

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IMMORTAL says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:38:56 2002 24.47.135.109)

Hey all.

KAM!- Spoiler [Did you read about the possible return of Eliza this year?!]

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:38:25 2002 63.10.156.126)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 15:43:02 2002

Miko *g* hmm..i hadn't even thought of charging you..well, til you mentioned it. *g*

Old One puppies good, well Ollie is having some eye troubles but he's doing fine. me, not so good. *sigh*
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edited to add:
MensaGirl ~~Sex Pistols~~ damn! i was trying to be fast to be first and didn't read the entire question. I saw rocker and Syd...LOL!! The correct answer is Pink Floyd..hm..maybe i will listen to some Floyd today.

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MENSAgirl (a.k.a. notsoShyGirl) says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:38:21 2002 12.253.141.127)

Let's play Who Wants To Be A MENSA Member?

The category is: Music
The question is: What British rockers called themselves The Screaming Abdabs until Syd Barrett joined up?

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:38:06 2002 209.195.160.44)

KAM - Smallville: that one guy,
coming out of the bowling alley place,
that one made me jump! At that close
of range, with a sawed-off shotgun,
maybe i've seen one too many John
Woo bloodfests, but getting hit that
close i would've expected to see tons
of blood. NOT that i wanna see blood,
but...

Also, regarding the Buffy sex stuff: it
wasn't so much seeing nekkid Spike, it
was the WHOLE Spuffy thing that
made me wretch. But in the context of
the story, i think they tried to show how
wrong the Spuffy stuff was for Buffy, by
making it violent, where as the
Willow/Tara to me was much more
realistic and romantic. And i think in
W/T's storyline it fit better. JMO

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jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:37:59 2002 194.117.133.182)

watcher's pet Are all of the pix and transcripts going on the DMBBC site?

I missed out seeing him this year and its killin' me!..... need input.... Stella's tale of SFX had me totally green, but I was there when I read it!.... need input!

Glad you guys had such a good time!

I forsee a time when we bulk buy tickets for such events!

Jocasta

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:37:37 2002 155.198.17.114)

slayerdaddy - *giggles* fair enough then, on both points :)

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Jenkins says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:37:31 2002 12.92.30.79)

Hi All!!

Morella

Awww you miss little ole me?? Sorry I have to take a hiatus when there is no new Buffy. Doesn't mean I don't lurk here and there! I need new Buffy I find I am not as interested in my season six tapings as I have been for the other seasons!

Neonate

I never know you were a copy cat... Thats okay you'll never know when I throw in a wrong answer just to throw you!!

HI to all and HAve a great day!!

Octoquad

Ahh yes the big one is coming!! Do what I do and just be thankful that another year has passed without your demise!!

Jenks

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LittleFearDemon says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:30:34 2002 195.92.198.73)

Hiya, kisses, scrolly now...

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:30:25 2002 194.117.133.182)

white wings The insomnia is continuing, though not as bad....and I don’t seem to miss the sleep, yet!...... I think Bronzing compensates.... sets the old brain buzzing!

Here goes, my comments on your last post:

‘He won’t talk/listen to me.... I know we’ll have sex!’......makes lots of sense.....like, NOT!

Spike was in there! (OMWF).....he left when he realized he was joining in.... she followed him out. He felt she should have stayed.... she wanted to be with him..... I get that!

Quote: Maybe he didn't think "evil" in trying to persuade her to be like him, but from a human perspective, it was evil.

We agree on something!

...and I’m right on WtB.... it get’s better

Quote: I think Buffy would have liked to forget that he was as evil as he was - she would have felt less ashamed.

Hurrah..... we agree again

Quote: But neither did she want him to be good. If he had been, the way she used him would have been scandalous. As it was, they were cruel and hurtful to each other.

BUT if he had been good she wouldn’t have had to call it ‘using him’ she could have admitted she loved him!

Quote:I can see that you feel the way you do, I just think you have bestowed your feelings on an heretofore unworthy object.

He’s wonderful..... and going to get better.... it’s the potential....that ‘tiny glimmer’ that does it..... and James! (she admitted!)

Angelus and Spike are NOT the same....never felt anything for Angelus (Angel, yes), Angelus, No!!

I feel more than pity for Spike...... (some of my feelings are highly suspect *BG* and have taught me a lot about myself.... or rather my ‘shadow self’) and I know we’ll cross swords a lot but how else will I get awarded gold stars?

I know and appreciate your view on dangerous individuals and agree that a balance has to be struck between trying to salvage a ‘broken person’ and the rights and safety of the innocent.

Will’s use of power to wreak revenge should get dealt with but I wonder whether ME will pursue it, S7 is reputed to be more upbeat, less breast beating? I reckon she will have been counselled over the break and be more like the old Willow. Jonathan and Andrew are guilty of being very weak... do you think we’ll hear what became of them?

**************************Big SOs to*
abt
Algerina
BlackMagickBitsy
Brooklynrocks
Bullseye
Caelen*
Calen
Christopher Marlowe
**Dachelle*
********************Dellraven,*
********************Dudley,*
******************Falco*
Fantasma
Frodo,
****Frozenflame*
********************Halfrek*
Kansas
Kwinakian
********************Leather Jacket,*
********************Lucille,*
*Mar
*******Mh and Ms Mh*
*********************Major Wiggins,*
******Oblivia
newtThe Partyman
paks; newt,PWAC,******
seniorslayerSerena*****************
*SlayerNextDoor**********************
Special K,* Spike4evr ************
StellasuryaStake*Stitch**********
* valMichael*Watcher’s Pet*********
*Wednesday Adams
white wings
wolfguard****************

#26 DOS (SOP) Gold Star

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:26:31 2002 62.253.64.4)

Falco - it was Joe Dolce, Shaddup You Face, that kept Vienna from number 1.

BTW I just saw ATS3.19, The Price. 3 more to go.

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:25:28 2002 66.170.160.203)

Hello again,

Miko: Yes, the violence in that episode was high, but also appropriate. Here is the thing about sex vs violence on TV. How often is the actual portrayal of a sex act, or faux-nudity required for the plot? How often is violence in a show about either stopping criminals or demons required? I am not here to advocate one or the other, and I think both can be done much more effectively with the "less is more" method. I am not saying it shouldn't happen--I am saying however that I don't need to see blood flying in order to understand violence is happening. Likewise I don't need to see skin or Spike doing "pushups" to know that characters are having sex. I think both are basically shooting for childish viewers who are easily titllated.
Back to Smallville: I knew there were shotgun blasts, but they were either long camera angles or not directly shown. It wasn't a gratuitous portrayal, yet still very effective. Basically the more blatant a portrayal of sex or violence is the more likely the meaning portrayed is either reduced or was never there in the first place.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:24:30 2002 131.137.245.198)

miller's angel - *big hugs*... how are the puppies?

scullbomb - years of typing experience. :0)

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slayerdaddy says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:23:45 2002 207.167.96.147)

Alllllllligator — Nah, this keyboard just can't spell. And I thought Giles was just justifying himself, not thinking anything through.

Yay, Gypsyrat!

Offta whup! Later all!

"My name is Willow Rosenberg. You killed my lesbian. Prepare to die." — The Jewish-American Princess Bride

Amber, always!

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:22:36 2002 209.195.160.44)

miller's angel - Regarding my
defense: that isn't going to cost me,
right? I mean, just in case there is a fee
involved... :P

DragonFlyze - Oh, you meant
Buffy? *weg* Well, when i said Willow
skinned Warren, i never meant to imply
she killed him! No - he's alive and well
and uh, hanging around...
somewhere... yeah! With puppies, and
lemonade and.. doing swell.

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scullbomb, the typing turtle says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:09:25 2002 205.188.196.31)

Old One Naw, you're just a faster typist! ;)

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Watcher's Pet says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:08:05 2002 158.152.188.17)

driveby before collapsing into bed...
I'm back from Baltimore & Shore Leave, completely knackered....
I had a great time with Oblivia, Halfrek & Mar, it was lovely to meet
them in real life. Not to mention Oblivia's family & pets - all just
wonderful! And Baltimore is a lovely town, I miss it already.

I heartily echo everything the others said about James. Having observed
him closely at the SFX con (OK - watched him like a lust-crazed hawk at
every opportunity......), I already knew he was a complete doll to his fans.
It was nice to see it again at SL. And to hear him sing (finally!) and laugh a
lot (yes, it's a really nice laugh). That short black t-shirt he wore on Sunday
which kept riding up wasn't bad, either.....oh, somebody stop me, I'm too
tired for this! More details will be forthcoming from transcripts and pix
(thanks to Mar and Halfrek) than I could possible recall
now. But there was confirmation that ASH has signed up for ten
episodes next season. And that Spike really would have
(spoilered just in case) bitten that woman in the alley -
at least, according to James he would have. An opinion which
disappointed a few people......

Halfrek - can't wait to read the transcripts and see the pix!! But I
am dead jealous that you got to meet him again, just after Oblivia
& I left. Still, I suppose even then I would have wanted more, he is
addictive! Btw, in full DMBB mode - I saw that Sera asked if
anyone else had noticed, in a scene with Clem, that James, erm, dresses
to the left....Well, yes, of course I did, I have a rep to live down to after all!
However, as you & I personally observed at SL, in baggy jeans, where
things start out is not necessarily where they end up....(left - no, right - no,
left again...*weg*!)

Mar have a good trip! Thanks again for the DMBBC badges (or
buttons - whatever). That was a good idea. Going the wrong way on the
escalator? Not such a good idea....*g*

Watcher's Pet

SoS no. 8
DoS no.17
COLSF no.3
ABS no.4
Mistress of the Handcuffs & Chains NSGSC
Mistress of the Single Entendre DMBBC

Dirty-Minded Bronzer Birds Club

no.1 Watcher’’s Pet - “Mistress of the Single Entendre”
no. 2 Oblivia - “Mistress of the Sock”
no. 3 Seniorslayer - “Official Brow Wiper”
no. 4 Dachelle - “Naughty Webmistress & Owner of the Laptop Spike”
no. 5 Lilangel - “Angel’s Package Holder”
no. 6 Mar - “Jeweler and Holder of Stones”
no. 7 Major Wiggins (Honorary Bird) - “Dirty Old Man & Chief Gigolo”
no. 8 Sarah Michelle Gellar (VIP Member) - “Slayer of Talk Show Smut”
no. 9 Spikmeister - “Bird Who Likes Birds”
no.10 Yelosub - “Keeper of the Slash”
no. 11 Halfrek - ‘Mistress of the Wild Imagination and Keeper of the
Protracter for Measuring of the Angle’
no. 12 Molly - “Official Licker of Christian Kane’s Chocolate Sauce
Covered Body’
no. 13 Carpe_Di - ‘Offiicial Handler and Shameless Flirt’
no. 14 Malum_Forma - ‘Mistress of the Sub-text and Possessor of the
Multi-Entendre’
no. 15 Little Fear Demon - “Official Washer of the Socks”
no. 16 Y_Slaybelle - ‘Wesley’s Official Nurse and Provider of Sponge
Baths’
no. 17 Serina - ‘Comparison Shopper of the DMBBC’
no. 18 Bufidiot - ‘Spike’s Salacious Salivator’
no. 19 Little Bubbles - “ Queen of the Tongue Tango”
no. 20 Frozen Flame - ‘Member in Charge of Angel’s Lip Moisturising and
Spike’s Bed Warming’
no. 21 Alyson Hannigan (VIP member) - for that Playboy interview
no. 22 Emma Caulfield (VIP member) - for saying f*ck on stage at the SFX
convention!
no. 23 Crazy Old Lady Spike Fanatics (Corporate Membership) - ‘First
Inside the Sock’
no. 24 Fantasma - ‘Mistress of Fantasy’
no. 25 bhd - ‘Mistress of Xander’s Sock Puppet O’Love’
no. 26 LaboratoryQueen - ‘Orderer of Confectionary-Covered Nekkid
James’
no. 27 Vilia - ‘Dominatrix of the Stakes - Angel and Spike Chapter’
no. 28 Jocasta -’Keeper of the Romantic Ideal, Mistress of Self-Delusion
and Seeker of Shadow Self’
no 29. CrayonBreaky - ‘Mistress of Feathers and All Things Fluffy’

s.o's to oblivia, halfrek, seniorslayer, bufidiot, kathypg, stellasurya,
toni, dallasviewer, stitch, noetic concordance, deadguy, genrefan, nikka,
BAAF, algernia, django, gregofgreg5, serina, oldmanfan, PTB, freaking
amazing witch, xanderella, spike4evr, philphud, slayerdaddy, old one,
millers angel, dachelle, special k, fantasma, mar, major wiggins, dudley,
spikmeister, molly, yelosub, carpe_di, malum_forma, little fear demon,
y_slaybelle, little bubbles, frozen flame, HumVee, laboratoryqueen, bhd,
jocasta, crayonbreaky, vilia & all members of SoS, DoS, COLSF, ABS, &
NSGSC

*poof* til my eyeballs don't feel like they've been sandpapered...

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:07:12 2002 63.10.156.126)

scullbomb LOL on you deadguy QoD answer. liver sausage and doritos..yuck!

*waves* to Old One

i'm really not here

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:02:47 2002 131.137.245.199)

DragonFlyze - yep indeedy, you were right with your question answer.. :0)

scullbomb - all I can say is great minds think alike, mine is just faster.. ;0)

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Lady Ireland says:
(Wed Jul 17 15:01:51 2002 205.146.106.1)

quick run through

Friends/family SJBW could you just see peanut and reesie out searching for Beldin, I can't stop laughing

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:59:16 2002 155.198.17.114)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 15:06:10 2002

Milady Falco - *ahem* *cough* ... 'scuse me, I got all distracted by your posts to Sir Jitsudude... *weg* were you saying something about cold custard? oh dear...

DragonFlyze - Hello! I think there may also be a Buffy website based in Australia which might have information that is more local to you... can't remember the URL sorry. :)

aligator

Edited to add:
slayerdaddy - hey. May I ask what I did to deserve 3 'l's? *g* And I've always liked your coat by the way. As for Giles... at some point I'm going to have to look up exactly what level-headed means. But Giles at least went through the motions of thinking about the rights and wrongs of what he was doing to Ben right? Not sure I understand... sorry.

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scullbomb says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:57:50 2002 205.188.196.31)

Howdy BBers!

Big Phat Yays to gypsyrat!!

Happy Birthday So's to:

Old One's Oldest &
Slayed Soul

deadguy's QOD
Old One stole my thunder, so I'm gonna have to go with Clem. He's just sooo thoughtful and nice that if he were an "official" part of the Scoobies, he'd be the first to offer up some Doritos and Liver Sausage in the time of a crisis!

Ozlady, aka da udder one!-- Hope all is well with Dr. Mr. Ozlady

Whew! It feels groovy to be here. Haven't been around in a posting capacity in a looonnnngggggg time.

Off to scroll...

Long Live the Cheeseman!!!

scullbomb

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Undead says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:57:24 2002 195.93.33.166)

hey all

just heard on the radio, a couple of Leeds college girls have won some competition and are off to the BtVS set in LA. they say they're the "biggest fans". grrr argh. sulking now.

Morella - thanks. :) see if I can do it today:

Wednesday’s Buffy Trivia Quiz

1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”?
Revelations
2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her?
she went to Tuscany, I think. I know she was "totally beachless for a month and a half" can't remember where her parents promised to take her...
3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale?
43
4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants. That pants I had about the pants ... It came true."
it's Buffy in 'Surprise', and the words are: Angel, dream and Master
5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address?
1630, Revello Drive, Sunnydale, california.
6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, Killing is a Vampires?
don't know that one...
7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered?
redish?
8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major?
Tom was Richard's friend. the nice frat guy. He was a Senior in college and he majored in history
9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl?
erm...Little Red Riding hood?
10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress?
Helen's Kitchen

scrolling...

Undead

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:57:11 2002 63.10.156.126)

another driveby

DragonFlyze hi. welcome to the beta. in Miko's defense, almost no one has been using the spoiler font for awhile. this because the US and Europe have finished airing the season. i realise that Australia has not so i understand your frustration, but in all fairness, it is not only Miko who's guilty of not using it at this point. i'd say 99.9999% of us don't for past season of BtVS and Angel but are using it for spoilers for upcoming season. also, it's totally up to you, but the majority of people don't use chat speak (or whatever it's called)..ie. ur msg (for your message), u (for you). be sure to check out the Community Rules and FAQ. settle in and jump on in to a conversation.

zoom zoom beep beep

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DragonFlyze says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:55:12 2002 202.129.95.21)

Miko: nah...not Smallville, Buffy - the whole willow-Warren deal. dun matter though...i think i'll live. thanx anyways.
k

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:51:53 2002 209.195.160.44)

DragonFlyze - Sorry for
spoiling you on the Smallville episode,
but these are repeats here in the
States.

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drlloyd11 says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:49:46 2002 216.230.77.42)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 14:52:11 2002

Debate on the topic of Tara
www.ink19.com/issues/july2002/streaks/deathOfTaraQuotThe.html

Oh and let me add to the "return of Amber" topic. No, shes not. She is auditioning for others series, and sounded at the toronto con like she would not be.

Of course, that would mean Joss is lying.

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DragonFlyze says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:41:51 2002 202.129.95.21)

Newt: thanx :p ... i mean that is if i interpreted ur msg right and u weren't poking fun...

as for miko : thanx (and that's sarcastic) for no warnage on the spoiler for da last episode...it doesn't air for me til next week... but thats the price i have to pay i guess for nosin round da boards!

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slayerdaddy says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:33:17 2002 207.167.96.147)

slayerdaddy enters the Bronze(bater), tattered Burberry flaring dramatically, on the way to whup...

Happy Postaversary Beldin!
Happy birthday, them as wuz born!

wolfguard — But Giles had no idea Ben had summoned the Queller demon. He could not have taken that into account. And he stood there over the crippled Ben and had a long conversation with him to justify himself before leaning over and suffocating the poor *******. There was no heat of battle involved at that point. (Add: Allligator, Boromir, KarenT: Giles, level headed? I dunno, but there's nothing more sociopathic in this world than an Englishman of quality convinced he's doing the right thing. They're capable of anything.)

Reyna — There's a model for the kind of "male feminism" we see on BtVS in the interesting Glenbridge book, Male Code: Hawkeye Pierce, the opportunist who uses his 'feminist sympathies' to hike women's heels to the ceiling.

abt, neonate — What season 6? [My eyes! My eyes!)

Fan of the Early Seasons — There are a number of good ways they could use Amber next season. Right now, I'd bet the good money I don't have they miss all of them...

Algerina — refresh my memory; is there a word limit on the contest? I'm working on a piece and it's turning into an excerpt from a novel...

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miller's angel says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:33:13 2002 63.10.156.126)

driveby

Happy Birthday...

Old One's Oldest
Slayed Soul

yay gypsyrat!

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:30:58 2002 209.195.160.44)

KAM - Yeah, the shotgun murder stuff was pretty brutal, luckily Smallville is on
after 9pm - and that makes me wonder how did Buffy get away with SO MUCH in Season
6 - violence-wise - being on at 8pm?? Specifically the Willow skinning Warren scene - for
the life of me, i can't figure out how UPN could allow that to be shown on an 8pm timeslot.
But, they couldn't show a scene where Willow goes "down" under the covers with Tara? I
remember reading a recent interview with Amber Benson (the Toronto Trek thing she
appeared at last week) where she said that she'd MUCH prefer seeing sex on screen
than all the violence (i'm paraphrasing her, of course.) Maybe that's how Buffy got away
with showing all that Spuffy sexage, they violenced it up. But since Willow/Tara was more
playful/sexy/romantic, they couldn't show as much of it. :(

Back to Smallville, it was still shocking (maybe shocking is too strong a word) to see
people gunned down on a show like Smallville. It was like a sudden dose of reality hitting
the show.

Sorry for my thoughts being fragmented - whuppage and all...

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paks says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:30:49 2002 24.52.23.128)

Yay gypsyrat

Happy Birthday
OldOnes Oldest

Slayed Soul

*smooooooTch*

deadguy's QOD Giles is the most level-headed of the group.

*wavies* at the usual suspect.

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newt says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:29:36 2002 24.58.81.130)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 14:30:13 2002

possibly a fly-by on an already sweltering hot day ... thank goodness for AC!

Yay gypsyrat!!! Happy Birthday Slayed Soul!!!

deadguy QOD: Hmm, if Giles and Tara don't count anymore ... *sob* ... level-headedness is not a strong point of the rest of the gang, though they all have been known to come up with it in a pinch. Especially Buffy, I think.

DragonFlyze: Yes! *g*

edited to add

*waves* and *smooches* to Falco, EverDawn and everyone else here ...

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Falco says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:27:59 2002 217.33.8.35)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 14:32:56 2002

abt
I could have sworn that Vienna was at number one for weeks…strange how the memory plays tricks…What novelty record….not Captain Sensible or something? The Birdy Song? !! A pretty good CD though. Love Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel, Righteous Brothers, The Kinks, Ben E King, Blondie, The Clash , The Jam, The Verve, The Police….oh so many! Ghost Town –The Specials was one of my all time faves…although Do Nothing is their best song I think. Oh Lord…so many memories!! I love music!

Genevieve's Lucie
It’s so nice when that happens isn’t it?! I was going through some very old tapes the other day. Was great listening to The Beat, Adam and the Ants, Heaven 17! I also found some Paul Young. There is a song called ‘Iron Out The Rough Spots’ that I loved. And some stuff by Bowie that I haven’t heard in years, The Man Who Sold The World, Cracked Actor (great song) and Beauty and the Beast. Do you remember I Lost My Heart To A Star Ship Trooper?

Jitsudude
As My Lord can see I am being a slacker and squandering my time in idle chatter. I'm sure you are not being so weak. Good Sir Knight I shall count the seconds till I speak with thee again *smootch* ;o)

I wonder who I can bribe to go get me an ice cream???...

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DragonFlyze says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:23:34 2002 202.129.95.21)

hey to all you people out there (and there seems to be quite a lot of ya's)...i'm sorry 4 being a backwards and behind stupid Australian...but i gotta know...u know? anyhoo, could someone from the US of A PLEASE help me out? Has Buffy and Angel finished for the season over there? i'm thinking yes coz its summer an all for u....and that's even more annoying coz i think i just answered my own question.

thanx for any pending patience out there and hi and bye from here.

k

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:21:13 2002 62.31.64.2)

Toni - sun?? whats a sun? ;) hehe hope its not too sore :) . hehe well it is quite a while away but theres much fun to be had there :) are you going in fancy dress for the party? *G*

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:20:22 2002 194.117.133.182)

Stellasurya: Perhaps it is the Hindu tradition that makes the difference but Jewish/Christian faith does not have 'deserving people' being better treated by TPTB than the undeserving. You do not 'earn' a place in heaven.... it is a gift, that you are unworthy of.

Vampire tradition has 'unworthy people' becoming vampires, suicides, killers etc.... and the vampires as not deserving anything other than to be dusted. I like Joss' version better. Like you said Angel didn't deserve to be vamped, no one does! Life ain't fair and the I doubt if 'getting to heaven' is a test you pass or fail..... Oops, too many parking tickets, you can't get in!
Heaven for me is not sitting on a cloud with a harp and the idea of a big worship session fills me with horror!..... it is being 'in the moment', so lost from yourself that you are totally immersed in the eternal (see I'm getting towards the big communion with God!).

Self = sin and therefore I'm a BIG sinner. I understand where Spike the unsouled vampire comes from because I have very selfish tendencies. It has taken me a long time to see/admit that! Even when I do 'good' things I can trace 'self' in it. Okay I don't rip people's throats out.... my actions are not 'as evil' but the motivation behind them is just as impure. Angel is not only doing penance but he is being very unselfish..... he gave up the gem of Amara and even Buffy for the better good of the world. I think Spike will be moved towards that, but hopefully will (after a suitable couple of episodes of self loathing, perhaps drowning sorrows?) be Spike with a much bigger 'glimmer' showing through. He will NOT be the Snerk, cannot be.... He'll be more lovely than ever, but I bet the leathers will go and the bleached, slicked back locks. (That will save James such angst!..... and be better for his hair!)..... he might even give up smoking! It won't be 'wave magic wand time', it'll be a struggle and James'll play that well. I'm looking forward to what ME do.....

What is your problem with Buffy? I like the conflict in her.... I don't want her to use her powers like a man.... she is a woman. Feminism is NOT emulating men its doing things in a woman's own way!

**************************Big SOs to*
abt
Algerina
BlackMagickBitsy
Brooklynrocks
Bullseye
Caelen*
Calen
Christopher Marlowe
**Dachelle*
********************Dellraven,*
********************Dudley,*
******************Falco*
Fantasma
Frodo,
****Frozenflame*
********************Halfrek*
Kansas
Kwinakian
********************Leather Jacket,*
********************Lucille,*
*Mar
*******Mh and Ms Mh*
*********************Major Wiggins,*
******Oblivia
newtThe Partyman
paks; newt,PWAC,******
seniorslayerSerena*****************
*SlayerNextDoor**********************
Special K,* Spike4evr ************
StellasuryaStake*Stitch**********
* valMichael*Watcher’s Pet*********
*Wednesday Adams
white wings
wolfguard****************

#26 DOS (SOP) Gold Star

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:18:47 2002 131.137.245.199|131.137.245.198)

Toni - *wavies* back!! and *hugs*

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Toni says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:16:01 2002 213.122.116.242)

Vaal ~
I seem to be slightly sunburnt LOL I'm also far too excited about going to UKPBFP at this early stage :-p I cannot wait *g*

TMorel ~
Nice things? *snerk* Yeah I wuv you too *weg* Sarcasm? Whats that then?!!

*wavies* to Old One

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EverDawn says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:11:35 2002 216.120.157.98)

drive by...

greeneyes: {{{HUGS}}} hope you are well, Sweetheart!

Beldin: I'm glad you found us too! I miss jubilee! See you Saturday! {{HUGS}}

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:04:59 2002 66.170.160.203)

Hello again,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SLAYED SOUL!

Miko: I agree about this episode. It wasn't a slam-bang, action packed wild ride, but I thought it did an excellent job of expanding the foundation of the characters. The kid warns Clark about Lex, but Clark says "I prefer to see the best in people." That is pretty ominous.
The Step-father driver--I can only assume that he killed the other driver, and went from there. I am not sure if the Limo came from Lex's local fleet or from his Father in Metropolis.
As you mentioned, Lana's "not bad" secret about Clark is also hinted at. As far as Lana's cute factor. I think there are two types of people--those who think she is cute to begin with, and those who realize later she is cute. :) Personally--I think she is CGI animated.

Other things in this episode--the murders. They pulled no punches with that--people being shotgunned and such. I was like "Whoa boy!"

KAM
Ty King Fan

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Cashmere says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:03:51 2002 209.176.95.2)

yay gypsyrat!

Happy Birthday, Slayed Soul

deadguy's qod it goes without saying: Giles

TMorel mmm...firemen...mmm...*g*

gah! whup.

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 14:03:03 2002 62.253.64.4)

Falco - go to amazon.co.uk and put
greatest number 1 singles
in the search box.
Then you can see what's on the CD.

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Old One says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:59:55 2002 24.64.223.203)

dang I had my Quiz answers down and lost my post when I went to get my siggy.. grrrrr

Yay gypsyrat

Happy Birthday wishes to my Oldest *hugs* and Slayed Soul

deadguy's QoD - Xander has the flattest head

meteor - :0p... *chuckle*

Morella - I felt so confident today too... lets see if I can remember..

Wednesday’s Buffy Trivia Quiz

1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”? Rvelations
2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her? she actually went to Aspen thought she'd go to Mexico
3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale? 43, although some say 44
4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants 'Giles'. That 'dream' pants I had about the pants 'death' ... It came true. Buffy in Prophecy Girl
5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address? 1630 Revello Drive
6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, Killing is a Vampires? orgasm
7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered? red
8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major? vamp that was imprisoned by the Initiative with Spike
9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl? Wonder Woman
10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress? Helen's Kitchen

mid week SOs to Adina, Adri, Aeris, Aethelaf, AjO, Algerina, Amorphia, Anais, andyourlittledogtoo, Angel Chick, Angelicious, AngelStarBrite, Anne, Aramina, Arana, Archaic, ArcticLurker, Arielle, AussieBulldog (woof), Bastion Ridley, BlackMajickBitsy, Blue Boy, Buffy5202, buffyisrael, Buggo, Carita, Carl, CarpeDi, Cave_Buffy, Chi, Cian, Claddagh, Claire Redfield, Cleio (VoD), ClosetBuffyholic, Comteacher, Cori, Covergirl *kiss*, CYMru, Cynster, Dachelle, Dao Jones, darkhorse, Dave, david2, Dayloro, Dayzee, DeAn, DELiver, Denise, Destiny, devil, Django, Dreaming Hawk, ducky, Dudley, Dunlin, Eire, eirefaerie, elizabethdarcy, ergo sum, evalie, Extra Flamey (my fav VIP), Falco, Fantasma, fenric, Firegirl, friday, Frodo, fuzzywuzzy, Gazoo, Gemma, Genevieve's Lucie, genrefan, Georgie, GilesLady, gin soaked boy, GORGOYLESHEAD, gray, greeneyes, The Huntress, Hollyn, Horizon, Icelord, Inca Gold, Irene Adler, JenNaPen, Jenny68, jessanne, Jewyl, jitsudude (scotch, please), Joe the Owl, Jovi, J.S.K., JustLiza, KAM, KAT in the Dark, Kiera, kronos *beam*, Kwinakian, Labrynth, Lady Wolfsbane, LaraC, Lazy Girl et al, Leila, Lelezinha, Lilangel, LilBufBuf, Lilyana (*sunshine*), Lissie, LittleFearDemon, little miss muffet, Little Wiggins, Lizza Slayer, Llewellyn, Lovely Poet, Major Wiggins, Marm22, Maverick, meteor, Mesuvius, Mia, Midiangirl, Miko (the Magnifico), miller's angel, Missi, Moloch2002, Morella, Ms Alucard, mslong2th, mudpuppy, MySlayre, nephy, newfan, Noetic Concordance (hummmm), Norns, Oblivia, Octoquad, OldManFan, Oleanna, OzLady, pdx, Persephone, Petrona, Phil Phud, Prince of Lunacy, Puckles, Raelynn, Rags, Raithen, Rainbow, Redhead, Red Hood, Reyna, Rikki, RippedToast, RobynTSH, Rogue, Rosebud, rtyrrell, Safarigirl, Scourge, The Seer, seniorslayer, Shade of Bronze, (notso)ShyGirl, Siltik, Sita the Night Goddess, Skyler, Slave2Faith, Slayerdaddy, Slayerette 2K, Slayergrl99, SlayerMom, SlayerQueen, Smiley Face, Sox, spike's girl, Spikmeister, Spikenip, SpookyMagoo, Stake, Stevie, StGermain, STITCH, SunnyD, SusieQ, Tallulahdahling, Tamz, TB, TGWIS, The Partyman, TheStage, Thoin, Toni, Turk, twilight, Uberman, Urban Leo, valMichael, VABuffyFan, Vamp Faith, vampire_angel01, Vanessa, Velvet Slayer, violet, white wings, wiccachick, Willow1231, Witchy Woman, Wolfguard, Wolfen Moondaughter (Moonwolfie), W-Sky, wyrmhunter, XG, X-Lander, xxM, Young1, Y_slaybelle, Zeus, 4paws

VIP SOs to the luscious Erika Amato, Steve DeKnight and Drew Greenberg

BGB #12 - Sacred Holder of Faith's 'Come Hither' Look, BIAHC #68, Jane's Junkies #71, All for Anya #7, BBBGH #36, Faith Dance Club #44, Everlasting Eliza #6 - Holder of Faiths's Leather Pants, Angel Dance Club #24 (Angels Fav Student). Proud Member of Buffy, Eh! #223, Z.A.M.B.O.N.I #44, Grand Order of Squid Jiggers (GOSJ), Sita's Police Squad - Deputy #1, Wolf Clan member of the Bronze Menagerie, GLR Commando # 44, Aged member of Silly Nefarious Old Poops (SNOPs) #69, OWMP #80, Girls/Guys who love Hallett #16, CKiaHC # 3, PD #3, Bronze Well Wisher #31, L.W.T. #54

Poetry Corner and MENSAGirl Quiz groupie.. *Official MENSAGirl substitute (well, once anyway... YAY*

Bro-let to Buggo and Eire, cousin-let to Slave2Faith
Gutter neighbour to Slave2Faith
Wise Onelet to LilBufBuf
Father to Cave_Buffy

Black Sheep Unclet to kronos

Black Sheep great-Unclet to The Stage and Lilyana

Unclet to CarpeDi

Unofficial evil unclet to Tamz

Personal poofer to wiccachick

Irene Adler's dance partner.. *smooch*

Rosebud, my alternate dance partner

Friendlet to tail-swinging Arana
Margarita bud and Dear Far Neighbour to Jenny68
Friendly adversary, chocolate and ga & l supplier Thoin
One of KAT in the Dark's Bronze Boys 'frolic'

AussieBulldog's cryptic mockery guy (arf)

Squidjigging buddy of Wolfguard
Dear Near Neighbour to friday
Guardian of the world with X-Lander
Lady Wolfsbane's beta male

Chimay provider to andyourlittledogtoo

Algerina's lapdog.. *g* (what a history!)

Friendlet to ergo sum.. "Salut"

CYMru *daily bap*

Dadlet to my pst, Mia

Covergirl - you touch my inner smile

"This is the crack team that foils my every plan?" - Spike
"I do not babble. I occasionally run-on. And every now and then I yammer..." - Xander
"Buffy, Eh? Is Eh-Okay!"
"A match made in heaven or Bellevue" - Lorelei Gilmore

"Nooooooooo! No nose sucking" Covergirl

e-CG-y

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greeneyes says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:56:45 2002 65.80.70.136)

The Greeneyes Daily Challenge is updated. :-) .
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jitsdude says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:53:51 2002 195.92.67.71)

Milady Falco Ahh to hear from thee doth bring me to joy and inspire me to wax lyrical... but nay hard at my desk I must stay. Enjoy thy day sweet lady and we shall talk anon.

Aligator oopsie... unless of course he is a lunchtime !! How much longer you in gay Paris for ?

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Leather Jacket says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:52:55 2002 63.214.223.103)

Happy Birthday Slayed Soul

Yay gypsyrat!
deadguy : Giles is no longer part of the group, having gone back to England. Tara is no longer part of the group, having -- well -- died. Ditto Joyce. And of course, Riley went off and rejoined the military and got hisself hitched. That doesn't leave us with a whole lot of level heads in the group. (I'm ignoring Graham's flat-top hair cut because he's also no longer in the group.) But if I have to choose the most level-headed, I'm going to go with Xander. Other than his stupidly cancelling his wedding to Anya and making her deal with the aftermath, he's been by-and-large sensible lately.

Ojagwers : Oh, where to begin? Did Dru choose Angelus and his still beating heart of a quaint little shopgirl because he was more brutal and torturous or because he could actually walk, unlike rollerboy? Also, you completely ignore the fact that during that same season 2, Spike chose Dru.
Dru isn't at all unique. See Darla in season one's Angel : "You're hurting me ... That's good, too." Vampires, being demons, enjoy brutality and consider it foreplay (when practiced amongst themselves).

Lazy Girl : But does that mean that you want a dip?

Stellasurya : I'm not a shipper of any kind. I did enjoy Willow/Tara and Anya/Xander, but each time I knew that it was only a matter of time before the relationship blew up in their faces.
Buffy has jumped from relationship to relationship to relationship. In the second half of season 5, she supposedly decided to go it alone for a while, to sit back and just be Buffy and that was the wisest relationship decision she's ever made. It's just too bad it didn't last. I have this sneaking suspicion that the writers don't know how to write a single independent woman.

"Would you be interested in playing Fantasy Buffy and Fantasy Angel (like Fantasy Survivor and Fantasy Football or Baseball) this season?"
I think my Angel Fantasy would violate this site's terms of service. *g*

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Tana says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:52:50 2002 209.115.91.135)

Happy postaversary Beldin

SMOOCH

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:51:32 2002 62.253.64.4)

Falco - but Vienna only reached 2! It was kept from 1 by a novelty record.

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StGermain says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:45:45 2002 208.136.50.10)

YAY, gypsyrat! - It couldn't happened to a better House of the Dead player!

Deadguy - Thanks for the blast from the past with the gypsyrat shoutout.

StG

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Genevieve's Lucie says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:44:55 2002 64.41.48.105)

Falco / abt: "Ohhhhh Vienna...". Wow! I haven't thought of that song, or Ultravox, in a very long time. I used to really like that song. I have it buried away somewhere with all of the records of my college days. I think I'll go dig it out and give it a listen. Thanks!

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Falco says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:41:10 2002 217.33.8.35)

abt
My fave shot of last season..other than ones from the musical…is in then Groundhog Day episode..where things happen over and over and Buffy looses it and stamps on Giles’ glasses!! I laughed like mad!! Also loved Giles kissing Anya and a few of the Spike/Buffy bits in the birthday party epp! (Bad with names ..sorry)

Season 7 Spoiler * They probably have the whole summer to collect background and location shots I imagine but should think all the stuff with the actors has been done by now. But then I know nothing about how TV filming works. London weather hasn’t been great but I think the west country has been ok. Still dying to know where thy filmed. Hope the Dorset coast and some of the Arthurian sites. Although they are meant to be in Devon aren’t they?*

Your CD sounds like fun listening! Trying to remember famous numbers ones and only Ultravox - Vienna comes to mind!!

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Jocasta says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:41:04 2002 194.117.133.182)

Stellasurya: Worthy?….. you make it sound like an insult! LOL!

Yes I know he already has empathy but he doesn't use it for those he doesn't care about….. in fact he uses it against people (Yoko factor). This is because he is evil. If I'm right about being re-souled making him reconsider his ways he will not be able to do that any more. This then makes him self-sacrificing. He will feel the need to be less selfish…… that doesn’t mean wet!

You and I have posted widely on the fact that he showed glimmers of such selfless behavior….. and you think that adopting that behavior more would make him dull, wet? No way! I like bad-boy Spike only because he has these glimmers. He would be a complete ***** hole without it! He has hidden depths and I love him for that, that allows me to put up with the 'Snark'….. I think that is how Buffy feels. I like the leather and wit….. no problem with that! Handcuffs?…. erm!…. my shadow self says Yay! But I'm still holding out on that one!…… Tell-it-like-it-is won't change…… he's a T not F (but he will be more thoughtful in it).. Hot? How could James play anything else? ;)

Reyna: Sure between mutually consenting adults, rough sex occasionally, that’s fine, as is role play..... but what they had was unhealthy..... not connecting spiritually, only physically. As soon as she started to feel comfortable with him they looked as if they were gentler together (she didn't need the 'rush' to blot out what she was doing, it felt good)..... then if he reminded her they were developing into an 'us' .....doubt took over, fear and WHAM!.... violence again!

Yes, she likes a little monster in her man..... don’t we all? BUT a ‘little’ not a ‘lot’. She comments that he isn’t getting any gentler as if she wishes he was....... her fault, needs to tell him, gave wrong lead!
I don’t go in much for ‘quickies’, prefer marathons, but for a male to manage that he has to have stamina (and with a family, the opportunity!) and a girl requires skill, imagination and patience (although I do get the impression that might not be as true with a vampire! *BG*).... Buffy’s ‘stamina’ probably implied that she prefers a longer session too..... she’s not into ‘wham, bam, thank-you ma’am’.....but I don’t think we have evidence that Xander would be either……… Anya seems to indicate that he is a proficient, caring lover and far from boring!

BTW You do make ‘marital bliss’ sound mundane.... but we know it hasn’t got to be! ...................and why has that got to be the 'only option' within marriage?..... your imagination doesn’t have to die when you take vows!

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Genevieve's Lucie says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:37:37 2002 64.41.48.105)

Good Morning Bronzers.

It's going to be a hot one here in the east today. Blech!

YAY! gypsyrat!

Happy Birthday: Old One's Oldest and Slayed Soul!!

deadguy's QOD: Well, I think Anya often looks at the situation more rationally than the rest of the gang. Except, of course, when she's seeking vengeance on an unsuspecting Xander. Giles would be my other choice. I think the show suffered from the loss of Giles' presence. Sometimes you just need a real adult around. The voice of reason, so to speak.

Y_slaybelle: Yesterday it was "The Goldberg Variation". I'm going to miss "Sein...Can't remember how to spell it." on Friday, because I'll be heading to SJBW3. "Closure" should be on Monday, though. I think I should start trying to prepare myself emotionally now. *g*

Off to the gym in a moment.

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Miko says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:32:21 2002 209.195.160.44)

Yay Gypsyrat!!!

KAM - Latest Smallville observations: Another good ep Tuesday, a nice change
from the "monster of the week" theme, this time, sort of (to me, at least) a "What if Clark
had been found by some unscrupulous parents, and not the Kents" he might have been
put in the same position as that little boy, using his powers for their personal gain.

Liked the romantic "tension" between Chloe and Clark, neat little clues regarding Lana's
feelings towards Clark, some ominous comments regarding Lex and his hidden "dark"
side - i really liked the actor who played the young boy who could read minds, he was
cast very well.

Minor quibble: How did the "bad" step-father get a job being Lex's chauffeur so quickly? I
would think Lex being as important and powerful as he is would have some kind of
security screening process, or background check regarding his drivers. I know, they
might have us assume that Lex just uses a service to drive him around, but i would think
he would have a full-time driver at his beck and call - your thoughts?

And does Lana get cuter everytime i see her, or is it just me? *g*

Lil Pia - I'll be sure to check out your new comic coming out - always enjoy
seeing your work!

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seeing more and more possible "spoilers" leaking through. Please be kind to those of us
who wish to remain un-spoiled for Season 7 - PLEASE USE SPOILER FONTS when
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...i'll be lurking...

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Spike: "...back off, Betty."
Buffy: "It's Buffy, you big... bleached... stupid guy!"

Vamp Willow: "What do you say? Wanna be bad?"

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:29:35 2002 62.253.64.4)

Falco - I'm listening to The Greatest No. 1 singles CD.

s7 spoiler I wonder if all the filming in England is done now? They should have had some decent weather for any outdoor stuff these last few weeks.

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:27:29 2002 213.121.212.121)

Happy Birthday Slayed Soul!

wow.. if it's Old One's Oldest's birthday today, that must mean that Old One is One Old bugger ;)

~chris
mrow = S2K

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puckles says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:26:21 2002 66.119.33.167)

Hey.

I have'nt done a pre-whup drive-by in awhile. Let's see.......

Spikmeister:
*waves* I'll be waiting for them!

deadguy:
*waves* (Why did I wave at a dead guy?) Tara had one. Giles has one.

abt:
*waves* I betcha they use a bunch from the musical for the opening credits.

Happy Birthday Old One's Oldest and Slayed Soul!

*waves at everyone else*

Going to go toil in the dirt kinda *poof*

-puck
Chock full'a hoot.....Little bit'a nanny

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Antipodean says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:25:23 2002 203.173.166.13)

“Who cares?” This says a lot about how Willow sees Xander now, and his attitudes toward education and life.

Or, valMichael, it could say a lot about how Willow fears she has nothing but her "research skills" to bring to the scooby mix. The dream was, after all, Willow's dream. Chock full of Willow's insecurities. Don't go tarring Xander with Willow's lack of self-worth!
The boy's got enough problems of his own!

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:22:36 2002 62.253.64.4)

10 weeks from now this place will be full of new episode discussion.

CD playing Going Underground by The Jam now.

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CarpeDi says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:21:39 2002 128.242.164.143)

Morning all, just my usual drive by before whup.

Yay gypsyrat Yay

Happy Birthday
Old One's Oldest
Slayed Soul

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(Wed Jul 17 13:20:44 2002 64.12.96.44|64.12.96.231)

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:15:35 2002 62.31.64.2)

TickleBunny Morel - LOL i forgot about that , wow my memory sucks *G* but i could blame that on the alcohol *G*

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Falco says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:15:19 2002 217.33.8.35)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 13:17:31 2002

YayGypsyrat!
Happy Birthday OldOnes Oldest!!

deadguy
It was always Giles……except when he had his Ripper moments *swoon*

abt
Fried eggs are delicious ..but very bad for you! I was evil and cooked sausages last night..but I did grill them! And like the thought of improved dentistry causing weight gain LOL....I'm looking in to suing my dentist first thing in the morning !! Space Oddity = great song & album!

aligator
I’ve been thinking of Apple Crumble and custard all day! Cant decide which one to have hot though…cos one thing must be hot and one cold…I’m weird like that!

Boromir
Surely you cant be implying that Trinagle wasn’t actually the glamorous ~~jet~~ferry setting British equivalent of Dynasty that the BBC worked so hard to make it!? I watched it ‘cos I fancied that guy that was in it who had been the kid in Omen III! Bad soaps are a thing of mine, did you see Eldorado? Although the US ones are the best….Sunset Beach was a masterpiece…even better than Acorn Antiques!!

Jitsudude
Once more My Lords kindly words have gladened my heart and improved my day. I have much to do before sunset and must make haste and follow thy example for knowing thou dost sit hard at thy desk hast inspired me ;o)

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TickleBunny Morel says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:12:12 2002 172.183.117.21)

Vaal
Hey - no blasting of the PBFP hotel. We had enough firemen last time.
Sure, the female members of the party may have been impressed with being surrounded by men in uniform, but they didnt have the bills for the damages ;)

Gordy
Wait till you come to one of the smaller parties. Me and MapB couldnt feel our faces after all the rum cocktails.

Toni
Me?? Say something that might be considered sarcastic? I'd never do anything like that. I always say nice things *nods*

EverDawn Mmmmmmmm Amber....
Stop encouraging me *g*

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EverDawn says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:11:06 2002 216.120.157.98)

TMorel is the very model of decorum and reserve!

Well, as long as you don't mention "a certain Buffy actress" and "custard"! ;-)

Actually, come to think of it...just "custard" is enough!

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greeneyes says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:08:54 2002 65.80.70.136)

Happy Birthday
Old One's Oldest

Happy Birthday Slayed Soul

Yay gypsyrat!

deadguy Giles!

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Algerina says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:05:38 2002 172.145.213.205)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 13:12:49 2002

Yay Gypsy Rat!!!

Happy Birthday to:
Old One's Oldest & Slayed Soul !!

DeadGuy
Now that Tara is dead it has to be Giles

Morella
You should set up a quiz for your family to see if they can find things in the kitchen. *g* We are all fine here. Hot but fine.

Ojagwers
I feel like you and I are beating a dead horse or at least a dead vampire. I meant that if in his frustration he lost his control and vamped out it would be even more motivation for him to leave. It would not require Buffy slaying him. She is the only human he can hurt.

OldManFan
Are we in competition? Not us. Not the Queen and King of Trivia.

ValMichael
Just check OldManFan's answers he always gets Morella's quizzes all right

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:04:54 2002 155.198.17.114)

Boromir - *blushes* umm. I meant the episode where Willow and Anya have Xander issues... did I say something wrong? *g* FERRIES?!?

sts - fish are slimy...

jitsudude - *waves* Your meeting was productive and interesting? Mine all seem to be in this strange language that I don't understand... *g* And I think I told someone on the phone today that the guy they wanted to talk to 'is a lunchtime'...ummm lol

aligator

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Freaking_Amazing_Witch says:
(Wed Jul 17 13:02:13 2002 200.61.39.5)

Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening Everyone!

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Saiph, Mar,BAAF, Malum_Forma, Lissie, S2K, Saiph, Puckles, Single Malt, Serina,Comteacher , Sir Chris, Diablo, Noetic Concordance,
paks, Narnian, EverDawn, white wings, Hello Cutie, Lester 'Creep' Crawley , CarpeDi,singsinthecar,Nikka, Dachelle, Maxi369,BatCat, LittleFearDemon

Essence SO's to: LittleWillow, Tralfamadore2001, AmberBGirlie
VIP SOs to: Drew Greenberg, Steve DeKnight, Joss Whedon, Erika Amato, Drew Goddard

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:57:29 2002 62.31.64.2)

Toni - i be fine thanks :) {hug} how be your fine self?

gordy - howdy stranger, wow it seems all the UK bronzers are getting ready for the big party *G* and when i said it will be a blast i wasnt referring to my vomiting last year ;) , how you doing?

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gordy says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:55:51 2002 193.130.145.253)

Quick drive by type thing due to freakishly large amounts of whup!

TMorel & Vaal - Hello to the 2 opposite ends of the drinking spectrum!! Judging by last years performence any way *weg*

Boromir - Haven't met/spoke to you yet but I'm sure I shall bump in to you at this years UKPBFP. As Vaal so succinctly put it "It should be a blast!"

SO's to Spikmeister, Aussie BullDog, London's Calling, Bohemiangel, Wolfstein, Falco (Wifey until paper work comes through), Morella, emjas_C, Adri, Mayoress, Narnian, @lex H, Tenik, newt, abt, sts, Angelsbabygirl, Leather Jacket, Jenkins, TickleBunny, Rainbow, MedusA, MotorCycleAuPairBoy, Mari, Vaal, Vlad, Archaic, Acolyte, Cymru, Jenny, BritSlayer(I do *not* look down her top), aligator, Prophecy Girl, Shiraz Petra, redruM, Mrs Pointy, Lmo, Joey Emma, Em Jo, Kronos, Prince of Lunacy, Count Zero, Roman Around, Seska, juri-sempai, jitsudude, Partyman, Toiletduck, Ronnie Vision, Miss Tartie, dayzee, Genevieve's Lucie, BlueRose, Algerina, Dellraven, Lazy Girl, Avatar, Urbanite, adri, ojagwers, Xanderella, Princess of Darkness, Jessanne, Squirrel, Single Malt, Amarra and anyone I've missed!
But not Bunny boilers as they freak me out big style.

Miss Kitty Fantastico for Next Big Bad Member #7
Express Swallow Post Member #2
The Quote Quarter Member #120

Some other cool sites I like:
The Top5 list Dilbert Dribbleglass.com The Daily Probe. If easily offended don't visit!

"Can't I just be pro-active with pep?"

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Toni says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:52:43 2002 213.122.153.218)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:53:38 2002

Boromir ~
Heya :) I'm okies thanks, how are you? And TMorel oh I never ever pay much attention to that *cough* newbie *weg*
You get to meet ickle old me at UKPBFP if you're going...beware *G* I'm sure TMorel will have some witty comment to give about that ;)

TMorel ~
Hot, hunky handsome people?? Where? Show me!! *weg* Also ROTFLMAO "not cause trouble" *snerk*

edited to add:

Vaal ~
Hiya sweetie {{hugs}} How be you?

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Boromir says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:52:25 2002 213.86.77.3)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:56:23 2002

aligator ~
Triangle ?? Please tell me you’re not now flipping in and out of some Twilight Zone and confusing Buffy with a dodgy 1980’s soap opera about a ferry ?? *g*
But I think I see where you’re coming from …..

TMorel ~
TickleBunny = Delusional …… *snerk*
And it’s been about 12 months since I’ve seen you …..

sts ~
Hi !
Re : TickleBunny ... see my post to Toni *g*

Toni ~
Yep ! I'll be there ..... and Tony will probably be the one handing out warnings about me ... *G*

Dagnabbit !!
That’s the end of lunch ….. see you all soon [[WAVES]]

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:51:43 2002 62.31.64.2)

TickleBunnyMorel - hey matey hows ya doing?

Toni - hi :)

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TMorel says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:51:02 2002 172.183.117.21)

sts
I'm a newbie. just like stina is *g*
No, I've been around a bit *way-hay* *nudge-wink* and I've also made the odd apperence here, at the Bronze, and the old TVJames's site.
I'm just shy, and tend to hide away a lot and not cause trouble, which is why you might not have seen me before

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Happy says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:48:30 2002 68.80.67.182)

OzLady: I hope the hubby is okay, told my hubby to be really careful driving today, bad things happen in three's so I am told..and yesterday my grandpop was also in a car accident! He is fine but the car didn't fair very well.. better the car than him though. again I hope he is fine, the car can be replaced loved ones can't..
*hugs*

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jitsudude says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:47:53 2002 195.92.67.71)

Aligator Hey hun .. *cutch* .. I was indeed early today... and then straight into a long but interesting and productive meeting... from which I have just emerged blinking into the light... how's you hun ?

Milady Falco Milady, the sun doth shine this day to remind me of the warmth of thy affection, the birds do sing that I not forget thy voice and yet still I am bereft and distraught until I speak with thee again *sigh*

I thank thee for thy concern though and I am indeed sat hard at my desk and scribing much goodly wordes this day.

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Neonate says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:42:14 2002 165.112.86.6)

Once more into the breach, with feeling:

1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”?
?
2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her?
I think she was promised some place like the Riveira, but maybe she had to stay in Sunnydale?
3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale?
Not enough, by God. But there is one Starbucks
4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants. That pants I had about the pants ... It came true.
dammit, dream, breaking dish?
5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address?
I remember her saying this in The Body, but I can't remember what it was.
6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, Killing is a Vampire's?
only way of getting a date?
7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered?
Black?
8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major?
?
9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl?
Wonder Woman?
10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress?
?

A trivial pursuit, indeed.

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valMichael says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:41:03 2002 66.25.45.85)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:43:00 2002

Morella’s Wednesday’s Buffy Trivia Quiz
1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”? Revelations”
2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her? Tuscany seeing buildings and art, St Croix and beaches
3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale? 43
4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants. That pants I had about the pants ... It came true.don’t like “pants” quizzes or questions, especially multiple meaning pants!
5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address? 1630 Revello Dr
6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, “Killing is a Vampire's …?” reason d’etre
7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered? black or blond
8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major? a member of the Delta Zeta’s at Crestview College, he was a senior majoring in History
9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl? Power Girl
10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress? Helen’s Kitchens

Morelle It would be useful, if after posting the scores, you would post the questions with the answers you consider correct. Thanks,

I’ve laid out a little space for the cheese
I wear the Cheese, the Cheese does not wear me

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Lil Pia says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:40:44 2002 209.148.233.74)

PSSTT! My comic, "Y - The Last Man" from DC's Vertigo line comes out TODAY! Go to your local comic shop and check it out!

Hee hee!

ta

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sts says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:38:40 2002 128.139.197.27)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:39:24 2002

tmorel: hey! i dont think i've ever seen u round. are u from long ago, or new?

morella: im pretty good :) bored out of my mind on vacation, but hey bored is better then school ;)

aligator: well u know what the most anoying sentence in the world syas: "there are plenty of fish in the sea"
holiay? fun! fun! fun!
have plenty of it! :)

meteor: i so wish! my p's are so over protective!

well people my mom wants to hog the computer so i gotta go!

see you all later! So's to: abt, aligator, @lex_h, Amarra, AndeeH, Angelcakes, Aramina, Archaic , Aussiebulldog, BaFan, bruinbuffygirl, 1cham, Chrissi, dayzee, Deadguy, Dogmeat, Downtownapartments, Genevieve's Lucie, gordy, Huskergal, JustLiza, kronos, Lilyana, little miss muffet, london’s calling, Lyndsay, melaka, Meteor , morella, newt, Original Jessica, Ozlady, paks, Remy, Rikki, rippedtoast,
slayerette 2k (sislet), Spikmeister, Stake, Stellasurya ,*Sunburst*, superrmk , TB, The Invisible Girl, Toiletduck, vampchica, willow1231, zeus and anyone Ive spoken to

Buffy ape #32
s2k fanclub member #11
Bronze Well Wisher #2
Miss Kitty Fantastico For The Next Big Bad member #48

“the hardest thing in this world is to live in it” Buffy, the gift

*poof*

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TickleBunny Morel says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:37:48 2002 172.183.117.21)

Boromir
Hey - no fair. I've been OK for 11 months now, so I think that shows I can handle my meds :)

Toni
Talking about myself?
Why? Did I mention hot hunky handsome people?

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:37:12 2002 213.121.212.121)

sts, got the e! :) yays *g*

So you're bored then? hmm.. sneak over here and I'll take you out ;)

S2K and I have been finding nice places to visit lately..

~chris
S2K = snuggle the elf

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Boromir says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:35:30 2002 213.86.77.3)

Morella ~
Is question 4 anything to do with Kenickie ??? *WEG*
Unfortunately, my expertise at Buffy Trivia is right up there with my non-existent degree in quantum physics, so I’ll not attempt to answer any of your questions for fear of eternal ridicule ….. (not that I don’t have to put up with that from certain people anyway …) ;o)

TMorel ~
Nice get out ….. *g*
I’m making no further comment, as I haven’t met/spoken to Toni yet …..

Toni ~
Hey !
How are you ?
I wouldn’t take much notice of anything much that TickleBunny says ….. he usually forgets he’s only supposed to take the medication with his name on the label – not just pick up the first pharmaceutical bottle that comes to hand !! *WEG*

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:34:20 2002 155.198.17.114)

Boromir - *nods* I see what you're saying... Giles is level-headed unless he's distracted by something specific... and Anya is the same maybe? Because of Xander... she's not always reasonable where he's concerned (Triangle?)...

sts - oh dear... sorry I asked *g* Don't lose faith yet though, I'm sure there're some nice blokes out there... there's got to be right? *starts looking under cushions on the sofa* I'm good thanks. Going on holiday on Friday for two weeks!

Morella - *waves* the trivia is fun! :) Think that was my best score yet too! 'm going to look at today's now... aiming for 7!

aligator

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KAM says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:32:06 2002 66.170.160.203)

Hello again,

YAY GYPSYRAT!

Deadguy QOD: Well, Giles seems like he takes that prize.

KAM
Ty King Fan

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valMichael says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:30:48 2002 66.25.45.85)

Beldin Great post!. Like everyone else that didn‘t come in at the beginning, it took me a couple of weeks to get up the nerve to post, and I jumped into an argument with kirbyclause and someone else. Talking about jumping into the fire and missing the frying pan!

Xander I’m re-watching Restless and just now Willow’s dream was finished. In the scene in the class room where Willow is giving the book report, Xander yells out “Who cares?” This says a lot about how Willow sees Xander now, and his attitudes toward education and life.

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Single Malt says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:28:47 2002 64.12.96.44|64.12.96.238)

Yay gypsyrat!!!!

Beldin A moving post.

OzLady I hope Dr. Mr. Ozlady is okay.

I have good news, for me anyway. I am finally a certified yoga teacher with a real job (just part time) starting in September.

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Toni says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:26:44 2002 213.122.153.218)

TMorel ~
Thats funny...I could've sworn you were talking about yourself sweetie ;) Mwahahahahaaa

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:25:47 2002 195.92.168.170)

Research and thinking time of the day again “g”

Wednesday’s Buffy Trivia Quiz

1. In which episode did Angel perform “Tai chi Ch’uan”?
2. In “When she was Bad” where did Cordy say she actually spent her summer and where had her parents promised to take her?
3. How many churches are there in Sunnydale?
4. Name who said the following, which episode, and the words that have been replaced by “pants”
“This happened before, pants. That pants I had about the pants ... It came true.
5. What is Joyce and Buffy’s home address?
6. What did Spike say Killing is to a Vampire, Killing is a Vampires?
7. What color is Ox's hair in Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered?
8. Who was Tom and what was his year and major?
9. What superhero did Buffy like to dress up as when a little girl?
10. What is the name of the restaurant where Buffy once was a waitress?

I will post the scores around this time tomorrow :0)

Boromir Hello there, [[[waves]]] back, good to see you :0)

sts nice to see you, I am not too bad thanks, how goes everything for you?

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TMorel says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:23:55 2002 172.183.117.21)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:27:24 2002

Boromir
When I mentioned riffraff I was reffering to Toni yeah, thats who I was on about *nods*

Hey Vaal and Morella
SMOOOCH to OzLady and [waves] to SaraAngel incase she's lurking *g*

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:23:37 2002 62.31.64.2)

Boromir - yeah working does kinda take over the fun in life *G* , yeah cant wait for the UKPBFP should be a blast ,

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Boromir says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:20:28 2002 213.86.77.3)

aligator ~
Hey !
The only thing that I can think of where Giles would be less than level headed is when he heads off in pursuit of an answer, only to realise he’s spent ages looking for the wrong thing when some other piece of information comes to light. A case of too much knowledge being a bad thing …. ?
However, your comment regarding Anya’s confusion over ‘human’ matters, IMO, just adds weight to the ‘for’ side of her being level headed. She doesn’t understand fully the complexity of human emotions, or how to show them and therefore reacts with the most basic of responses – making her appear ignorant and maybe even cold-hearted (??)

Morella ~
Hey ! :o) {waves}

Vaal ~
LOL – my non lack of a job (fortunately ?) is my problem. There’s been all sorts going on here over the last year or so, resulting in a distinct lack of quality Bronzing time …… that and lack of a PC at home ….. *G*
But it’s starting to sort itself out a bit now, so maybe that’ll give me a bit more time – however, you never know – it could all go t*ts up at any time …..
Other than that I’m pretty much okay …… regardless of whatever TickleBunny might say ….. and looking forward to catching up with people at the UKPBFP

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:12:58 2002 62.31.64.2)

Boromir - LOL yeah its odd *G* i blame my lack of a job, gives me more bronzing time during the day *g* , how you doing?

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sts says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:12:12 2002 128.139.197.27)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 12:14:27 2002

morella: hey! how u doing?

aligator: *grr...argh* he was such a jerk! self centered, ego high idiot!
we havn't spoken since the little get together.
i'm starting to loose all trust in the male kind!
;) so whats new with u?

added:

meteor: im good! bored out of mind on vacation, but i rather bordem above school! all i really do is stay out all night with my friends and then wake up mid afternoon! *sigh* life is hard.... :) lol
i'll resend and see what happens :)

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:12:11 2002 213.121.212.121)

sts, hey, I'm fine thanks - missing S2K though *g* How're you?
My email is the same, the new company I have handling my domain has been having a lot of problems over the past week. Try resending it and see what happens..

~chris
S2K = baby snuggles

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Toni says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:11:41 2002 213.122.153.218)

Howdy Bronzers...dropping the siggy look out ;)

SO's to:

ACOLYTE, Adri (Mom-let!), amberlynne, andyourlittledogtoo AngelRachel, Aramina, Archaic (Wales baby *g*), BCangel, b.u.m., Cathedral (we'll train those dingoes one day!), comteacher, Covergirl, CYMru, Damia, DeAn:) {{hugs}}, divaliving, Django, DowntownApartment, Dunlin, elizabethdarcy, Enchanted, Evalie, Evil Anya (aka Spitfire aka Black Box *g*), Extra Flamey, Frodo, gaia, genrefan, gin soaked boy, Gray, Hollyn, Ice Angel, Jennie, Jessanne, JK, KAM, Kathypg, kenickie, Kestra Troi, Khoutek, Kiba Rika, kronos (partner in crime and weevil sis-let), Laz, Lazy Girl, lurkerfish, Mabb, Maeve, Mar, MedusA (fellow Angel lover!), ~mere~, Mia, MrsBigpileofdust, Mump, Neonate, newt, Nicki, Noetic Concordance, Oblivia, Old One, Petrona, phaedrus, ^^^PIPPISTRELL^^^, puckles, Rachel, Rachie, Rainbow, Redwing, Rikki (nurrrggghhhh), Roman Around, Scourge ("It hurts"), Seska (the W.i.T), Skyler, slayerdaddy (for teaching me the wonders of the "fifth"), slayergrl99, spikmeister, Squirrel, Stake, St. George, Tauri, TB, Tessa, The Librarian (...spatula...*g*), The Mayoress, The Sci-Fi Bard, TheStage (*grovels*), Ticklebunny Morel, tralfamadore2001, Uberman (TSF *g*), Valkyrie, vampire in a basement, Vilia (my North-Easterly chum), violet (who is also ultra), vlad (sambucca!!!), Watcher's Pet, wolfdog, X83, X-Lander, Y_slaybelle, Yummy, Zarthrax and Zeus (*hugs*) and to anyone I've missed out, or anyone who wants!

And a very special VIP SO to Steve DeKnight who wanted to come to Bronzers Do Bridlington...really...he did...*g*

Clubs:

Member #28 of Angel and Riley Club || Member #29 of A.N.A.L. || Member #06 of The BBC are Evil || Member #22 of James Marsters Is A Hottie
Member #14 of A.P.A. (Acolytes Protection Agency) || Member #28 of MSPEL || Member #04 of B.R.I.T.S || Member #05 of B.O.C.W.
Member #11 of David Boreanaz is a Hottie || Member #18 of Eliza Dushku for President || Member #86 of Joss is a Hottie
Member #08 of Secretly Addicted to Spoilers || Member #26 of A.B.C || Member #51 of [Going Through The Motions]
Member #346 of Fury's Fanatics || Member #171 of DeKnight's Riders || Member #58 of L.W.T || Member #1 of Spin Off Spike
Bronze Bezoar Big Game Hunter license #216 || Keeper of the Anti-Tart Net

AIM: BronzeToni
MSN:tonilangton
Coco-Licious
Spin Off Spike!

Quote:
In the dark - Spike:
(Rachel voice) How can I thank you, you mysterious black-clad hunk of a night- thing?
(Angel voice) No need, little lady - your tears of gratitude are enough for me. You see, I was once a bad-@$$ vampire, but love and a pesky curse defanged me. Now I'm just a fluffy puppy with bad teeth. No, not the hair! Never the hair!
(Rachel voice) But there must be some way I can show my appreciation?
(Angel voice) No, helping those in need's my job, and working up a load of sexual tension and prancing away like a magnificent p00f is truly thanks enough.
(Rachel voice) I understand. I have a nephew who's gay, so...
(Angel voice) Say no more - evil's still afoot, and I'm almost out of that nancy boy hairgel I like so much.
To the angel mobile - away!

*lurk*

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Happy says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:07:40 2002 68.80.67.182)

OzLady: yep we will be arriving Saturday as I have to work Friday night.. we are looking forward to meeting the rest of your clan! Hey, I too am still holding out hope and have faith that it is still possible that Mr. Pres may show his handsome face in NYC.. :) *hugs*

Blade: I can't take the suspense! ;) I am hearing Meatloaf say is it YES or is it NO, come on baby what's it going to be?! ..hehehehe nag nag nag nag nag nag nag nag nag nag nag! *hugs, smooches and Iknowyouwantto snuggles*

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Morella says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:07:24 2002 195.92.168.166)

YAY! Gypsyrat!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to
##### Old One's Oldest####
Slayed Soul
and anyone who has a Birthday today

Scores from yesterdays Buffy Trivia

OldManFan…..10 1st
Algerina………10
Undead……….8.5
valMichael……7.5
Hello Cutie……7.0
aligator…………6.00
Old One………5.5
Neonate………..3.5
Zeus …………..Top Comedian :0)

From yesterday

Old One
Hello there, how are you today, hopefully the week has been a good one so far?

notsoShyGirl
Hi! Have you heard anything yet about the results of the interview?

Batcat
Hello there. I noticed you went out for the day yesterday? It sounded fun. Where is Light Water Valley?

Neonate
Hi! re question 5 you were quite right there about Amy being Catherine, good point :0) Although I called her Amy, as, at the time she was thought of as being Amy, until near the end of the episode

Undead
You are doing well at the Buffy Trivia, I think you will soon be getting them all right :0)

aligator
Hello, I am not too bad thanks. It was nice to see you having a go at the Buffy Trivia :0)

S2K Quizlet:

1) Lolly? Choc? Cotton candy? not today thanks
2) My mother told me not to tell anyone the horrendously embarrassing thing that happened to her yesterday morning... should I tell you? *eg* No, obey your mother
3) Do you often window-shop for other people? no, I normally end up shopping for others though, at Christmas
4) What's the easiest thing in the world to misplace? anything and everything
5) Is it sunbathing weather where you are? yes

OldManFan's Buffy-related Trivia Quiz - trivia about cultural references made in BtVS episodes
1 point for the answer, 1 point for the episode it was in

1. Who is St. Crispin the patron saint of? Patron Saint of Shoemakes and Cobblers, was the episode the one in Season Five when they all head off to the desert? I cannot think of the name
2. What compnay produces Giga Pets? Tiger Electronics
3. What's the generic term for the kind of movie Xander was making fun of when he said "I'm from the country of Leone? westerns, possibly “spaghetti” westerns? I think the episode was “Inca Mummy” or something like that with Ampata in it.
4. The year Dorothy Hamill won an Olympic gold medal, which US female skater won two medals? Bonnie Blair won 2 in 1994, but in 1976 when Dorothy Hamill one an Olympic gold medla, Shelia Young one 3, gold, silver and bronze for speed skating, I don’t know the 2 though. I think the episode was “What’s My Line Part 1”
5. Burt Reynolds was nominated for an Academy Award for what movie? no idea

from today

deadguy
re QOD Well as it stands now, I really do not know, Giles would be my first choice, but he is no longer a full time member of the gang, and Tara would he my second choice, but she is no longer around. IMO it is hard to choose a level head amongst them now.

OldOne
Hello there, a Very Happy Birthday is wished to your eldest childe [[hugs]]

Algerina
Goodmorning dear sister, how are you and hubby, how has the week been so far? You and OldManFan are in competition I see, re the quiz :0)

RSO’s and waves to Spikmeister , Ojagwers, Falco, aligator, valMichael, OzLady, sts, and anyone one else who shouted out :0)

Waves hello to Sarah's carl, Happy, abt, KarenT, The Mayoress, Vaal, WireGhost, TMorel and all here

SO’s to Abpositive, abt, ACOLYTE, IreneAdler, Adri, Aethelaf, AJO, ali, AliCe, Algerina, @lexH, aligator, Allyson, Alpy, alyssa, aja the good fairy, Amarra, Amberlynne, amorphia, Aramina, andeeh, andyourlittledogtoo, Angel’sAngelus, Angelique’s Faith, Angel Dust, Angel Rachel, Angel Rain, angel’sshadow, Anix, Antipodean, Archaic, Arana, Arielle, Artie, atter, AussieBullDog, Balf, banana, banshee, Basia, Battle Kitten, BatCat, BCangel, bec, Betty, biggest fan yada yada yada, binkette, BiteMeGirl, Bitter_Sweet, bhd, Blackheart, BlackMagickBitsy , Blade-The-Vampire-Hunter, bongogirl, Boo, Boromir, bohemiangel, Araura Borealis, b.u.m. 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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:02:06 2002 155.198.17.114)

Boromir, KarenT - hey! I'll confess that Anya is second on my list of level headed Scoobies... but then her confusion over 'human' matters struck me. I always remember her reaction to Joyce's death, and some of the shorter moments of her conversations with Xander... she was all set to run away from the Acension, then all set to stay behind if Xander didn't come too... I wondered if you could explain some reasons why Giles would be less level-headed too...?

sts - *waves* How was the 'going out with that guy' thing... or was it too long ago...? Or shouldn't I ask...? :)

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OzLady says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:01:43 2002 172.174.175.185)

Beldin: *Sniffle* Maybe it's a girly hormonal thing, but your post made me cry! Can't wait to see you and everyone else this weekend!

EverDawn: You can't wait to see ME!??! *I* can't wait to see you and Mr. ED *must.fight. urge. to. sing. Mr. Ed. theme. song.* ;-)

Okay, time to go deal with Ozlets and aftermath of Dr Mr OzLady being rear-ended at 1:00 AM. Sigh... looks like we might need a new car! :-P

~OzLady, over and outtie

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Boromir says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:01:15 2002 213.86.77.3)

TMorel ~
Frickin’ Cheek !!
Whaddaya mean “they’ve let the riffraff in” ?? – You were the one that told us where the unguarded door was !! *WEG*

SO's to ~ Cobby EXTRA SPECIAL {{HUGS}} & {{SMOOCHES}}, Shiraz Petra, redruM, MedusA , Dru , Motorcycle Au Pair Boy , Ticklebunny Custaaaaard *G* , Pooka we ARE Team Lobster !! {HUGGLES} , Kenickie, Mrs Pointy “Is that a pint I spy before me ??” *g*, Everdawn, Mr Everdawn, Jipsy Girl , Sanguineus, Narnian, KAT in the dark, ShyGirl, LurkingGirl, Rachie, Narrator, Eire, DeAn:), Clarrie, Calen, andyourlittledogtoo, st george, greeneyes, X-Lander, Supergirl, Kiba Rika, Caoil, PDR, British Angel, Slayerette 2K, closeyoureyes, TaraAnyaKate4eva, Shaun, Mark, Vanessa, Catriona, Lady Of The Lake, Prince Of Lunacy, Spikey, BeMu, Arana, Misirlou, Countess, elusio, Selenay, Wild Weasel, Morella, Kansas, the red hood, Skittery, Dark Angel, Vaal, Molly, Fade, Amorphia, Prophecy Girl.

V.I.P. SO to ~ Amber Benson, Andy Hallett, Jeff Pruitt, 4*MARY

FOUR STAR MARY ROCK !!!

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sts says:
(Wed Jul 17 12:00:21 2002 128.139.197.27)

abt: hey! how r u doing?

ozlady: hey! it's been a while! how r u?

aligator: hey! how r u?

meteor: hey! how r u?
did u change your e address, because i sent u one and then it got sent back to me.

spik: hey! how r u?

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Neonate says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:55:37 2002 165.112.86.6)

abt: Well, I, for one, have campaigned for discarding everything S6-related (except for the musical), so I hope not to see any "highlights" on the openers of S7, becasue quite frankly there were none.

That's my pig-headed opinion, and I'm sticking with it.

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TMorel says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:52:12 2002 172.183.117.21)

Oh bloody hell, they've let the riffraff in.
Hi Boromir Whats with all the Brits popping out the woodwork?

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Boromir says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:50:59 2002 213.86.77.3)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 11:53:41 2002

..... lunchtime ....

YAY ! gypsyrat

Thank you to everyone that I missed for the yay's yesterday :o)

Happy Birthday wishes to anyone celebrating today !

deadguy's QoD ~
Level headed ..... hmmm .... possibly Anya - everything is considered in relation to money or mating ....... can't get much more level than that.
But if you're talking about the not-panic-in-a-crisis-and-think-clearly-under-pressure type level headed, it's gotta be Giles !

Vaal ~
Hey !
Nothing for nearly a year and then twice in a week ! How scary is that !!??

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valMichael says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:48:50 2002 66.25.45.85)

Wednesday Greetings & Salutations to all Coffee Clubbers, those from across the seas, remaining L.O.S.E.R.s & Lurkers!
Buffy reruns are much better than no Buffy at all!

Happy Birthday to:
Old One's Oldest & Slayed Soul !!

¡Yay! ¡ gypsyrat ! ¡Yay!

deadguy QOD I’ll agree with KarenT

Very Special {{{Smootchies}}}and SOs to my seven Daughterlets:
ANNE, Buffyenta, CHRIS, Garm, Icelord, SweePer, & Talullahdahling!

Special Famlet SOs to My Famlet – The Asanti Clan!
More SO’s going to: My Bronzer SO List,
and VIP SO’s going to: My VIP SO List

My Home Page – My Siggy Page “Trust the tale, not the teller!” Joss, 12/15/98

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Beldin says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:39:45 2002 63.149.141.145)

Drive-by _{© AKA BECKER}

Yay, gypsyrat!

deadguy - Hi there. Look at me, I'm here at a time to answer one of your questions. "Most" being a relative term, I'd have to say Giles. Assuming he's still considered part of the group.

On July 1, 1998 I did a Yahoo! internet search for "Buffy the Vampire Slayer". Browsing through the results I came to the Official WB BtVS website. There were things there that didn't really interest me but my attention was caught and held by a place called The Bronze. It took me a minute or two to figure out that I should read this thing from the bottom up and when I did I found that people were having conversations about this great show I had discovered. It had a week's worth of archived boards and I went back all the way to the "beginning" and started to read. It was fascinating. These people (at least most of them) were talking about things in this show I hadn't even thought to look for. Those who weren't talking about the show were saying "Hi" and having conversations that showed they considered themselves friends. (And two of them were having a sound effects war.) I read every post until I had to stop to go to bed. When I got home from work the next day I started where I left off and continued reading. I didn't get much else accomplished the next few days. A time or two I'd think to say "that's right!" or "that's wrong" but then I'd remember that these people had already had that conversation and gone on. I continued to read and watch to learn the ins and outs of the board. Then one day I hit "Refresh" and the screen showed me the same thing I had just read. I had caught up. No more hours of reading. I had to wait for new posts. Maybe it was time I posted myself and let them know I was here? What do I call myself? Not being clever at thinking up names I decided to borrow one from a favorite story. "Belgarion" was the main character but "Beldin" was easier to type. Besides, I liked him. So on July 17^th I made my first post. I didn't say much, just that I had read a neat article about BtVS on the Viewers For Quality Television site and I posted a link to it. Such a short, unaddressed post. Would anyone notice? Someone noticed. The wonderful EverDawn and the equally wonderful Jubilee both responded to my post and made me welcome. And I continued to be welcome there until the site shut down. Then I migrated here where the welcome continues though some of the names have changed. Now, four years after my first post, I'm leaving in just a few minutes to start a road trip that will culminate in seeing, again and for the first time, 40 or 50 people who are representative of the friends I have found. I just wanted to say thanks before I left. It's been a grand four years.

P.S for the SJBW3 people: If you don't see me Friday send the search dogs (Peanut and Reesie) to make sure I didn't end up in Florida somewhere. ;-)

Tana - *SMOOCH!!!*
Keywe - *SMOOCH!!!

Gone now.

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The Birthday Gnome says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:39:31 2002 66.25.45.85)

The Birthday Gnome brings you

BIRTHDAYS – today we have – BIRTHDAYS

Today is WEDNESDAY , the SEVENTEENTH day of JULY of the year 2002 C.E.

We have TWO real birthday celebrators today!

Old One's Oldest
Slayed Soul

Birthday Happies to you,
Happy Birthday today,
Happy Birthday to:
Old One's Oldest & Slayed Soul !!
Birthday Happies to you, today! Hooray!!

NOTE: We need someone to post the birhtdays on Saturday, Sunday and Monday morning, as we won't have access to a computer until the afternoons, at the earliest. E-mail us ASAP if you want to do this!

If you want to be on the brthday list, just e-mail Birthdays@mikemclellan.com
There are 1,917 people on the Birthday Lists!!

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OzLady says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:37:20 2002 172.166.96.152)

YAY gypsyrat! *smooch*

deadguy: Definitely Giles.

Blade: {{Hugs}} and *smoochies* Okay, so how's this: I have told a couple of people (no names) in the past few days that you were a "maybe" for the NYC PBFP and they showed the *exact same* disbelief that your sister did! Am I the ONLY one of our friends who still has faith in you?!?! Are you going to disappoint your sole remaining true believer? Am I laying it on too thick? Let me hear an "Amen!" *g*

Reasons #10 and 9 why Blade should attend the NYC PBFP:

10) Last hurrah before "family responsibilities" set in!

9) The oh-so-important ability to still surprise people! :-D

Grifter: *Smooch* See, I knew if I waited long enough to write back to you, I'd have a story to tell! Will try to get to email today and tell it. And NO, it is not about what you are thinking it's about! That story is long over! *g*

Happy: {{Hugs}} YAY! Only a few more days! We decided not to send the kids to camp at all on Friday so we could leave earlier and take our time getting down there. We will still arrive at the hotel in time to swim and shower before dinner... but hey! Aren't you guys getting in Saturday anyway?!!? Why am I telling you all this then!??! ;-) Seriously, I cannot WAIT! And the NYC party is going to be a blast as well- WOO AND HOO!

~OzLady

SO's to ACOLYTE, AKA Becker, Algerina, AliCat, AngelStarr, Anya, artemis, Artie McD and the McDLT's *g*, bec, beldin, belmont, biohaz, Blade, Bridget aka Scotlore, Bruddah Max, Buffyenta, cabin7DAD, Carita, Ccool, chi, CHRIS, Chrissy, Claris, Clattering, clover, Corpelia, Corvus, Cricket, dao jones, deadguy, DeMoriel, Destiny, devil, dualslayers, earthgirl, elusio, EverDawn, faeriedoctor, fairytale, FASTEDDIE, fenric, fibs, Fred, FSM CDMan, FYG, genrefan, Gideon, godeater, goldspike, greeneyes, greengirl, Grifter, gypsyrat, Happy, hollyn, Icelord, Immortal, Iris, Ivy, Jeanie TTF, JeffK, Jennie, Juggernaut, JustLiza, KAM, Kameko, KarenT, Karma, Kate, KAT in the Dark, KestraTroi, keylime, keywe, Lady Confessor Tee, Lady Ireland, LB, LouWho, mallyB, Margot LeFey, Megdalen, menkhare, -mere-, Mesuvius of Carnegie-Mellon, Mia, Mid12AM, Mircalla, Missi, moppety, Morbius, Morella, newfan, newt, Occido, ojagwers, Opus, Phil PHuD, Phoenix, psyche, Reyna, Rikki, Robyn TSH, Roman Around, Roxanne, RD, RTBS, Safarigirl, Sarah's carl, SarahNicole, St. Germain, Scourge of Europe, Shannah, Shaun, Sir Chris, SlayedSoul, Some Psycho Named Sam, SpikeNip, sts, SweePer, Swoop, Tana, TB, TC, TMorel, twilight, Vaal, VABuffyFan, Vadeus, valMichael, VT, wanttoknow, Wolfguard, X-Lander, Zedsdead and the rest of the wonderful denizens of the Bronze!
VIP SO's to Anthony, Seth, David, James, Nicholas, Joss, Kai, Eliza, Chris Beck and his lovely wife Jane, Ty King, Jeff Pruitt and Sophia Crawford, Elizabeth Anne Allen, Marc, Amber, Emma, Todd Babcock, Bailey Chase, Danny Strong, TVJames and OzFan, Christopher Golden, Marti Noxon, Jane Espenson, Davids Fury and Greenwalt, Tim Minear, Steve DeKnight, Todd Macintosh, Alyson, Charisma, Glenn*sob*, Alexis, J. August Richards, Christian, Stephanie, Andy Hallett, Julie, Amy Acker, Michelle, Robia, Kristine, oh yeah! and that Sarah Michelle chick ;-), FSM, Darling Violetta and Kami and Jymm, Adam, Eric and the Common Rotation guys, and of course, Erika Amato, Jeff Stacy and Velvet Chain.

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WireGhost says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:37:07 2002 64.12.96.44|64.12.96.238)

Good Morning-Afternoon-Evening Bronzers!

"Hello!"

SO's: 1cham, 944, Algerina, amberlynne, Angelique's Faith, Angeloudi, Antipodean, Balf, Blade-The Vampire Hunter, BuBBle, Catriona, Chi, Comteacher, Dak, deadguy, DeAn:), ducky, Eowyn, Evil007, fenric, greeneyes, Icelord, janni, JeffK, Kameko, kenickie, Keywe, Kiba Rika, Kresnik, Lady Ireland, Leather Jacket, LilBufBuf, Nite Vizhün, Mark, Mrs.Beasley, OldManFan, Seska, ShyGirl, Single Malt, sithqueen, Slave2Faith, Spikmeister, squirt, St. George, Stonefloat, Suekib (My Hero!), Tana, TB, The Angelic One, The Mayoress, the red hood, valMichael, Vamp1159, Willow's Acolyte, X-Lander, Xanderella.

VIP SO's: Amber, Anthony, Apollo, Darling Violetta, Emma, Four Star Mary, Sarah, James, Joss, Marc, Nicholas, Alyson, David, Fury, and Velvet Chain.

The Quote Game

The rules to this game are simple. Monday through Friday I will post a new quote from Buffy the Vampire Slayer on the Bronze posting board. The game will not be played on Saturday or Sunday. I will post the quote during the indicated board time located on the posting times. Your task is then to fill out the form located here and click the 'enter' button. The first Bronzer to get it right will be declared winner! All the other Bronzers who get it right, but are not first will still be posted on the winners list for that day. Do not worry; I will never post any quote that would result in a spoiler! I will not take answers from the board because posting your answer on the board would give your answer to other Bronzers. Please use the form to send your answer. This game is a great way to test your Buffy knowledge! If the quote would happen to go unanswered, the quote would be considered a "dropped quote" and will be fed to my dingo, Umbra.

The Quote:

Number: 401

"A Slayer hunts vampires; Buffy is the Slayer; don't tell anyone. I think that's all the vampire information you need."

-Click to play the quote game-

Buffy Video Game for the Xbox

Click Here to read a nice article on the Buffy Video Game coming to the Xbox near the end of July!

Nice Screenshots too...

The article is from gamespy.com

The game is being developed by The Collective

Never ask for a stake, well done... WireGhost

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sts says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:36:35 2002 128.139.197.27)

good afternoon!

Yay gypsyrat!

deadguy: Giles

So's to: abt, aligator, @lex_h, Amarra, AndeeH, Angelcakes, Aramina, Archaic , Aussiebulldog, BaFan, bruinbuffygirl, 1cham, Chrissi, dayzee, Deadguy, Dogmeat, Downtownapartments, Genevieve's Lucie, gordy, Huskergal, JustLiza, kronos, Lilyana, little miss muffet, london’s calling, Lyndsay, melaka, Meteor , morella, newt, Original Jessica, Ozlady, paks, Remy, Rikki, rippedtoast,
slayerette 2k (sislet), Spikmeister, Stake, Stellasurya ,*Sunburst*, superrmk , TB, The Invisible Girl, Toiletduck, vampchica, willow1231, zeus and anyone Ive spoken to

Buffy ape #32
s2k fanclub member #11
Bronze Well Wisher #2
Miss Kitty Fantastico For The Next Big Bad member #48

“the hardest thing in this world is to live in it” Buffy, the gift

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Vaal says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:35:47 2002 62.31.64.2)

Mid-week Greetings to all

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:31:04 2002 62.253.64.4)

I wonder which season 6 clips they'll use in the opening titles in season 7? Who chooses/arranges them anyway?

Any ideas?

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The Mayoress says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:28:52 2002 194.203.254.194)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 11:31:25 2002

Dogmeat your post was immediately following Sarah's Carl's post hence the connection. Ignore my comment because i was obviously mistaken, sorry, i scrolled too quickly and re-reading it you made no such comment.

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KarenT says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:28:30 2002 169.207.194.215)

deadguy: As long as bunnies aren't around, it's Anya. Giles gets a little hot under the color from time to time.

good morning all.

KarenT

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:22:43 2002 62.253.64.4)

aligator - I was telling S2K yesterday that I hadn't trusted Willow previous to s6, but I couldn't think of specific incidents at the time. That's just one reason. Oh yeah, and the thing about using ears in spells. And keeping the parts from Ted.

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Happy says:
(Wed Jul 17 11:14:29 2002 68.80.67.182)

Sarah's Carl: interesting and really gross article, also really really sad. Anyway, see you Saturday! *hugs*

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Sarah's carl says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:59:49 2002 209.240.222.131|209.240.222.32)

Yay gypsyrat!

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:59:03 2002 155.198.17.114)

Yay gypsyrat! Yay!

deadguy - Giles? Despite his fondness for Buffy and Dawn, I can't imagine him losing it entirely.

abt - *g* sounds like you're having a good day! Are we supposed to judge Willow for trying to help Dawn...? She may have meant well, she may not have truly understood the dangers involved, either because of her own experience or because her research had concentrated in other areas...? It's an interesting question... does ignorance make you morally weak?

S2K - I got all confused over who was emailing / phoning me to arrange what last night... Did I say that the guy I was supposed to meet on the 1st has confirmed? *pouts*

aligator
lunch-time!

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deadguy says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:51:10 2002 65.192.248.182)

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for gypsyrat! yay gypsyrat!

today's question is brought to you by sunnydale caterers. whether you're having a bash or a brawl we've got the party trays that make it special!

who do you think is the most level headed member of the group?

hey tana!

#)
pretty spry for a corpse

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:46:32 2002 213.121.212.121)

abt, I'll agree that people here are getting fatter.. although I think it has something to do with no being bothered to cook after driving 90mins home at night..

~chris
S2K = baby snuggles

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:29:49 2002 62.253.64.4)

Oh, a thought! I must post it at once.....

American stereotype - fat.
British stereotype - bad teeth.

But! British dental treatment improving, and Britons getting fatter.

What if? Good American teeth lead to fatness, because better at munching? Bad British teeth act as a weightloss aid?

CD now playing Space Oddity

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:20:39 2002 62.253.64.4)

I'm listening to A whiter shade of pale. I'm having a great time!

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Dogmeat says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:11:08 2002 24.90.229.56)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 10:17:47 2002

The Mayoress I'm very confused. Do you think my comments were about Sarah's Carl posting that gross and disturbing article? My comments were about my purchase of the Variety Once More With Feeling DVD from eBay!

Dogmeat who only pretends to want to eat Yoshi *eg* and The Bronze Ducks over at the UPN/Linear *weg*

Dogmeat *baps* himself :)

edited to say

BBS dead :)

LWT #84

POOF

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aligator says:
(Wed Jul 17 10:02:34 2002 155.198.17.114)

Morning All!

Falco - mmmm, apple crumble... hungry now! *g*

jitsudude - you're early today! *waves* cutchy?

Spik - morning... hope you're not too ill... muffin?

Mayoress - *waves*

aligator
Yay the Cheese Man!
MENSA Groupie #2
MKFftNBD member #150
s-TRZ-d (w/in Reason!)

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 09:59:46 2002 213.121.212.121)

Mayoress *chomp*

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The Mayoress says:
(Wed Jul 17 09:31:26 2002 194.203.254.194)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 11:32:21 2002

Meteor and Dogmeat Those comments to Sarah's Carl might be intended as jokes but they're very tasteless given the subject.

edited to add: above comment to Dogmeat should be disregarded i misread the post.

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Meteor says:
(Wed Jul 17 09:09:02 2002 213.121.212.121)

Spik, I'll email you some when I get home tonight..

Sarah's carl, nothing wrong with wanting to be immortal - I'd probably do the same, except I can't stand the taste of blood *g*

~chris
S2K = mrow.

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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 09:01:35 2002 62.253.64.4)

Falco - I've got a fried egg for breakfast.

S2K - re not trusting Willow, she did help Dawn raise dead Joyce by giving her the book.

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Falco says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:51:43 2002 80.225.61.55)

Good Morning All!
I'm ~~bunking off work again~~ going to the doctors for blood tests so can have a nice lazy morning. There is another strike at my place today so I will have to decide if I want to fight my way past the pickets later !! Quick post while I wait for my egg to boil…….

Jessanne
Thanks for mail hun. Only received it late last night although I saw it was sent on Monday! Will reply later. {{hugs}}

abt
Well my life has meaning if my little ways amuse you dear *raises eyebrows* ;o)

aligator
LOL…what a wonderful thought! Puddings growing wild …..I love it. I'd plant an apple crumble tree…..and an éclair bush ;o)

S2K
I made sense? Are you sure you were reading it right? Actually generally speaking I'm usually just stuffed ;o)

Jitsudude
As for estate agents it's not the clothes I assure you….all the ones I've met were nasty little wide boys…..no it's the ' Three story detached Victorian vicarage in own grounds set back off the road. Perfectly restored with all original features (sash windows/shutters/fireplaces etc) intact. 2 huge ground floor reception rooms, 5 bedroom (master bedroom has walk in dressing room and bathroom with sunken bath and fireplace), further bath/shower rooms,. Huge recently modernised kitchen (but including Aga) with French windows leading to garden. Pantry, utility room.. Etc etc'…….that's the sort of thing I'm looking so longingly at!!!

Be good today….write lots of copy, *smootch*

I did have clubs, but I’ve forgotten them!
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“Life! Don’t talk to me about life!” Marvin the Paranoid Android
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MSN-Falco
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abt says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:49:53 2002 62.253.64.4)

How do you think Buffy should have behaved towards Spike in s6?

I think it was wrong to abuse his feelings for her, but if she hadn't, she might have ended up dead.

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Stellasurya says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:44:51 2002 195.92.67.71)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 08:49:08 2002

Morning Bronzers,

Jocasta - Well, I'll let you have your head on Angel and Spike, it sounds...worthy if a little dull. Especially the thought that Spike in Season 7 should be 'self-sacrificing'! (he has empathy already). OH NO! please Joss no! I want Snark, Wit, Bad-boy, Tell-it-like-it-is, Leather! Handcuffs, Poseur, HOT! Spike! Not a wet William who still doesn't feel he's good enough for Buffy - (ick), as if!!! (see Reyna on the pre-disposition of Buffy for kink!)

Reyna - Oh Lord! I love your deconstruction of the so-called 'feminism' in BtVS. LOL!
Is there a point? Good point!
I feel much the same way in that this season lost the plot (mainly because there was no resolution at the end to all that flipping angst). But if the point is to show that a cute (very tiny) woman can kick arse with the best of them - showing her as a deeply objectionable human being who manages to avoid any self-honesty rather obviates any enjoyment in female emancipation! I find myself yelling at the screen - "bloody take that slayer-power away from her for pity's sake and give it to someone who could handle it rather better, like a bloke!"
Oooppps! Sorry Sistahs! Perhaps that is just proof that gender-conditioning runs very deep - in me as well as in ME! *g*

But it's almost like coherence of theme is considered bad for story-lines, Tara/Willow fans have made much of this, especially pointing out that the gay relationship they adored must be sacrificed for The Story, but the DMP must be sacrificed for the sake of advertising revenue. What is feminism sacrificed for? Bigger viewing numbers amongst the male population as was implied on the Succubus Club by (I think) Jane Espenson...mmmm?

EDIT: ojagwers - Nope, sorry! All the instances you cite are not EVIL, bad yes..influenced by evil - yes, in as much as any other thief or thug or gambler is guided by a Dark Star, but not plain EVIL. Stealing from the Magic Box? Tut! Better stake Dawn then!

Stella.

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Rileyx3 says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:43:12 2002 210.80.144.36)

Back from dinner~

Adri hwo can you leave without me being here? I would have put AIM on earlier if I knew you would talk to me!

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dayzee says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:42:37 2002 144.136.141.220)
Edited: Wed Jul 17 08:43:08 2002

possibly a drive-by

Sarah's Carl - I was watching Rikki (howdy *g*) on Monday night and the episode was about Vampires. It’s even classified as a real religion (not rikki - vampirism). The things they do are quite disturbing too. There of course is the whole sleeping in coffins, wearing black but they have to eat raw meat, they inject and drink blood there is a lot more but it is a family board.

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The Partyman says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:38:28 2002 193.61.213.131)

Ultra Quick Driveby...

Totally unscrolled random driveby..

Still not cabled up yet (grr. Argh.) Seem to be busy busy bsuy, even when I'm off having fun (my birthday celebrations).

A little tired, and still reeling from from getting the lowdown on some of 7x01 earlier this week.....

*hugs* and *waves* to all.

should be back in the bronze properly soon..

xxx
The Partyman

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Dogmeat says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:38:18 2002 24.90.229.56)

Sarah's carl

I had to have my FIX man. I was going insane. lol

www.ebay.com

Buffy Musical Dvd Variety
Item # 1550147724

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Sarah's carl says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:34:36 2002 209.240.222.131)

This Is Just Plain SICK!

Dogmeat, you paid how much for that DVD of OMWF?

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Adri says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:24:04 2002 24.25.227.133)

Riley x 3: It's good to see you too! Get on AIM sometime and we can chat! I missers you. But now it's time for me to sleep. Hope to see you again!

*wiggles pink fluffy bunny houseslippers and poofies*

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Rileyx3 says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:21:39 2002 210.80.144.36)

getting my dinner, back soon

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Rileyx3 says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:16:30 2002 210.80.144.36)

Ojagwers :-) hey, my post was way longer and bolder last night, so don't stress! I am very pleased to meet you!

Adri I am figuratively splashing around in the gudder with you! It is ever so good to see you

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Dogmeat says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:13:30 2002 24.90.229.56)

Hello

,Well did you hear the news?????

I got the Once More With Feeling DVD off of eBay , the one that was in Variety.

WOO HOO

I can't wait for it to show up , please UPS person be nice to my package.

Dogmeat

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Ojagwers says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:11:15 2002 64.12.96.44|64.12.96.238)

Er, just want to say sorry for that very bold post -- the "edit" function insists that I'm not on the same server (heck, I haven't even signed off yet!) and won't let me into the IP test, so I'm afraid the blinding orange is here to stay. Apologies, all ...

Ojagwers

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Adri says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:09:10 2002 24.25.227.133)

Rileyx3: eeek! *falls into the gudder with a sploosh* *reaches up and drags Rx3 in with her*

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Rileyx3 says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:08:27 2002 210.80.144.36)

Spikmeister that is bad, about being ill that is.

Y_Slaybelle sorry I missed you on my first post, One of these days I will scroll further than the post that is first or second.

_{Rx3 ~ watching the highlights of the Tour De France so far!}

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Ojagwers says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:05:35 2002 64.12.96.44|64.12.96.238)

Partially scrolled as usual, but what the hey ...

SOs to all here, including but not only Denise, Dogmeat, LazyGirl, Partyman, Y_slaybelle, Genevieve's Lucie, Algerina, Tiggy, AussieBullDog, abt, Dellraven, Stitch, Jocasta, halfrek, Reyna, Christopher Marlowe, Major Wiggins, frodo, Morella, Slayerdaddy, wolfguard, Xanderella, gordy, dudley, tralf, Evalie, Firegirl, SlayerQueen, miller's angel, AngelRachel, PWAC, Allyson, Stellasurya, kronos, Serina, Rikki, Jaan Quidam, Uberman, Nikka, Diablo, white wings, Mar, The Host, puckles, Special K, Thoin, Fantasma, Spike4evr, newt, Lilangel, Hello Cutie, Oblivia, OzLady, KAM, CarpeDi, deadguy, Clem, Dachelle, Hollyn, Drew, Drew, Rileyx3, Leather Jacket, Blade, Grifter, Lucille, Falco, BlackMagicBitsy, and everybody else!

Yay Boromir!

Hello Rileyx3[/g], good to meet you (virtually speaking) ...

Stellasurya, as folks on this board may have noticed, I'm a big ol' Spike fan, but ... he hasn't done any evil in Season 6? Okay, Big Evil -- the woman in the alley (this is not a test, repeat, this is not a test), the demon eggs (hazardous to *somebody's* health) and, of course, the bathroom (that's not vamp evil and not premeditated evil, but boy, it's still evil). Little Evil -- smoking while Giles is almost killed in "Bargaining" (yeah, it's a good joke, it's in character for Spike, but Giles *does* think he's dying and that he was an idiot to trust Spike, who's watching him die ...), cheating at cards in "Life Serial," stealing from the Magic Box and therefore Anya (who Spike actually has friendly feelings for) in "All the Way," leaving Buffy to fight the loan shark's minions in "Tabula Rasa," failing to pay debt, same episode -- although I'm all in favor of not paying kitten debts, so I'll waive this one -- the eggs again (while telling the truth would have been awkward, his beloved Buffy is very worked up about finding these things -- not nice not to tell her), dumping Katrina's body (great, she disappears -- her family is not only heartbroken but freaked out forever). And I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. Spike has also had moments of being very *good* -- the two don't cancel each other out.

abt, about Anya getting her ring when the world doesn't end, she has the ring by the beginning of Season 6, Xander just doesn't want her to wear it. In fact, the world *didn't* end -- Buffy died to save it and, indeed, it is for the moment saved.

I think Willow is trustworthy if she *says* she's trustworthy. Nobody ever had a problem with Willow outright lying -- her problem seemed to be in over/misuse of magic. I suspect -- S7 spoilery speculation * Giles will have cured her of that by next season.* But she tends to do what she says she'll do. As someone else pointed out, it's easy to tell if she's good or bad by her mood :)

Leather Jacket, I know this gets discussed periodically, but the "tie her up and torture her" business with Dru is really unique. Given a choice between S2 Spike -- who brings jewelry -- and Angelus -- who brings bloody hearts, killed everybody Dru knew and tortured her, Dru chooses Angelus. Before Spike is even "made," Dru's complaint to Angelus and Darla is "you won't even hurt me." She is nostalgic about Spike with a branding iron in Paris. Given what we know of Dru's siring and Angelus, this is what Dru was like before Spike came into the picture -- she really *would* be more inclined to view Spike as more properly vampy if he tied her up and tortured her. (Let's not forget, Dru's chief reason for leaving Spike to begin with was that he teamed up with the Slayer and wouldn't kill her, not vampy at all of him.) Spike doesn't seem dismayed by this course of behavior, but -- and I wouldn't argue this if we were talking about anybody *except* Dru -- this doesn't seem to be just one of Spike's bright ideas about courtship, but rather the action appropriate to the person being courted.

I have checked the transcript *and* the shooting script for the China flashback in "Fool For Love." Shooting script: "He [Spike] sinks his teeth into her neck ... she's getting sucked dry." The transcript describes this action. So Spike has definitely tasted Slayer blood.

Lucille, I think that bringing Buffy back wasn't a hard sell for Willow. All her friends loved her (well, Willow and Xander more than maybe Anya), none of them knew what consequences there might be from the spell, none of them had reason to believe they were harming Buffy and, once it was put to them that Buffy could be brought back, I think it looked like a very small line between leaving her dead and killing her. "She died to save you and you're willing to risk *nothing* to save her?" Of course Xander and Tara would be in, and Anya wouldn't leave Xander in jeopardy. There's a lot to play on there, emotionally.

However, within 24 hours of Willow apologizing for messing with Tara's mind, swearing she doesn't need magic, having Willow mess with *everyone's* minds puts her for the time being beyond credibility. Willow also had to stop doing magic for her own reasons, *not* just to please Tara, or it would fail. (Sort of like ...)

Speaking of which, to be fair to Buffy, she can't have a longterm relationship with someone who makes himself into what she wants him to be, because then she's got the strain (even if it's not articulated) of the fact that what she approves of about her partner is just a show (unless she gets really, really excited about good acting). So Spike on good behavior couldn't cut it in the long run, not because he doesn't sincerely want Buffy, but because he doesn't sincerely feel he cares if other people live or die, and she looks for that concern in a partner, there's a big problem.

Actually, I think Willow and Oz *were* fairly resolved at the end of Season 3, in terms of being a viable couple. Oz forgave Willow for the Xander smootchies, Oz and Willow go to bed, they are totally okay for the now, which is the best it gets in Sunnydale.

Algerina, I think the attempted rape was plenty of reason for Buffy not to trust Spike and for Spike to decide he needed to change. An actual vamp-out would probably require Buffy to *kill* Spike.

Also, while Spike is being an idiot, blind, oblivious to the current reality of the other person in the situation and *attempting rape* (emphasis for doing something incredibly horrible), he at least has some basis in experience when stating (however hysterically and badly timed), "You love it when I'm inside you." He is not talking about his teeth inside her neck here. He has evidence that Buffy enjoys sex with him; he has *no* evidence that Buffy will remember how much she likes him if he just bites her. While he is out of control, he still has *some* fragile connection to reality ...

Falco,, yeah, I liked watching the Peter Wimsey miniseries a few years back. Actually, liked it better as a miniseries than as a book ...

Okay, direly exhausted, goodnight all!

Ojagwers

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Spikmeister says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:03:40 2002 193.113.48.9)

Rileyx3: Hey there... Yeah, I'm still busy today and not feeling well...

Meteor: For when you appear... S2K says I should ask you for pictures of her cat...!!!

From scrollage...

puckles: I still have it, it's still in my desk where I left it after I sent those Cds...!

Lazy Girl: They said it's Exchange 2000 and IM comes with it... I don't use any IM at the moment as we basically can't due to firewalls and proxies...!

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little wiggins says:
(Wed Jul 17 08:00:51 2002 202.138.36.116)

This is funny!

http://www.theshrubbery.com/0999/superjay.html

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Rileyx3 says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:59:03 2002 210.80.144.36)

wanders into the Bronze and sits down next to her long lost pal (oops I am the long lost one, aren't I?) Adri and knocks her into the wonderfully stcky chocolate gutter :-D

Adri!!!!!! hi!

Spikmeister hello there, how are you today? Busy?

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Spikmeister says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:53:38 2002 193.113.48.9)

Good Morning People...

Scrolling...

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Adri says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:29:08 2002 24.25.227.133)

Sydney078: Ah, but your plots for the end of the shows made me laugh *g*

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angel4ad says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:17:22 2002 63.93.107.59)

bander....yuck!!!

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Y_slaybelle says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:16:48 2002 205.136.60.22)

peek, foop

Genevieve's Lucie "Kill Switch" is on X-Files tonight! Of the "Twilight Time" song. I plan to tape it, I never did before and I think I want my own copy... *g*

News reports are going wild with Buffy season 7 casting... am almost afraid to hope... the names they're tossing around are too good. If it's all true, then I'm wondering if they're treating this as the last season. Lots of big gun pulling.

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Reyna says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:16:11 2002 142.161.55.38)

slayerdaddy - I rambled, I posted it.

I don’t see BtVS as being especially feminist by any standards. The creators would like to tell us it’s feminist, but as far as statements go, it’s right up there with, “you ladies are so clever with your cookie-making; us men would never be able to make cookies this good ”. Appearances first - the actresses are specifically chosen to look immature, very tiny, very dainty and feminine. Charisma started to mature, she was shipped off. When the rest got to legal age, they bring in a fifteen year old and take promo shots of her in tight leather pants to make sure nobody thinks this is a show about old fat women. Yeah, women have a right to look sexy if they want to, yadda yadda, and it’s all eye candy, and Spike, too, I agree. Still, these aren’t real people, these are characters created for a specific image, which is not, “I am a ~~woman~~ person,” but rather, “I am jail bait for you to fantasize over”.

As for the arcs, I’d agree that the first year was strong. Buffy begins to grow up/defeats The Master, and his ‘family’ of followers/ overcomes a patriarchal authority figure. The Angel arc is a little iffy. She had sex with some guy who turned nasty once he’d scored. She should have staked/got over him. He hangs around, she’s insecure and apologetic, he hurts (well, kills, actually, but I’m not sure where I am with my metaphors) people she cares about. She muddles through, not perfect, but that’s okay, she doesn’t have to be. She’s smart, sexy, funny, and a few other things that are not so good. She gets through the next few seasons one way or another, I’m too tired to dissect them, and you probably don’t want to encourage me.

By season six I’m lost. She has sex without love and we’re told repeatedly that this is bad, bad, bad. To emphasize the point that it’s bad they make it kinky sex. Bad, Buffy, bad. Buffy sure ain’t right in the head. But it’s okay, we’ll straighten her up by having a government/military representative/external force drop in out of the blue and give her a pep talk, rather than having her work it through with elements already in the arc.

Meanwhile, Willow, whom I liked in season one, moved from computers to witchcraft, probably to give her a sassier image. The intelligent Willow demonstrated her delicacy, and got on my nerves, by overdoing her lithpy baby talk. Minor thing, but it serves to remind us that women aren’t to be confused with grown-ups. Anyway, witchcraft, magic = woman power, life force, blood, moon, womb.…or not. Turns out it’s harmful and addictive. Or, something is, I’m not clear on what. She abuses her lover. Nobody’s perfect. Then her lover comes back, which might have been okay; not everybody holds a grudge until hell freezes over. Except it was for the purpose of some hot lesbian sex and to position the lesbian in the bedroom so they could have a sensational lesbian death scene. Then the witch flies off the handle and tries to destroy the world. What’s that all about, metaphorically? The dark side of rampaging women? Maybe, but I’d expect something for balance here. Something is destroyed so that something else can grow, or like that. This seemed to say nothing more than that women who become powerful are insane and must be controlled.

Left without adult supervision, Dawn is whiny on the one hand; a calculating shop-lifter and robber of old men on the other. Anya comes off as likeable, within the strictures of her character she’s honorable. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean anyone likes her, and she’s played for comic relief. Xander, the weasel, who should have been smacked across the head several times for his put-downs, comes away from the season looking like a hero.
Joyce never interested me, she was there because Buffy needed a parent in the background and she was written alternately as clueless, and cloying. I liked Cordelia, she did what she had to do and mouthed off while doing it.

I forget what your point was, questioning whether the show has feminist values just because it says it does? I’d say, not especially. Sexy women who kick booty have been a staple of entertainment long before this, as I’m sure you’re aware. :) I’d look for the female characters to have some control over their lives, rather than having things done to them (serving as victims), but the writers keep doing them in. Buffy’s been hit by so much bad luck that thinking about her is depressing, she’s like a down on their luck friend that you wish would just go away in case it’s contagious. Willow needs permanent containment. Dawn is not likeable and I don’t care how sexy they dress her. Anya’s lost her humanity. Joyce is dead. Tara is dead. They may pull some of this out of its nose dive but it’s all a tad manipulative.

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bitca says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:16:06 2002 67.24.231.170)

fifth??

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jitsudude says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:15:25 2002 195.92.67.71)

Morning all ..

Whup whup whup whup...

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Reyna says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:09:50 2002 142.161.55.38)

Jocasta - Nah. Don’t agree. I don’t believe the rough stuff was an aberration Buffy would never want again. Parker had implied (can’t remember the exact words) that she had a lot of...hmm...stamina? I believe that Riley didn’t want to get the chip that was super-speeding but killing him removed, not just because it made him more efficient as a fighter, but because (I suspect) he was afraid its removal would make him less of a match for her sexually. Even if some of that isn’t die-hard proof, it’s been hinted at that she’s….more than normal. The ’she needs a little monster in her man’, was said before the Spuffy stuff came up, and I think it was written in because it’s true. I think she felt more free to act on her desires with Spike, she didn’t have to worry about scaring him off and didn’t care if she did. If she somehow wound up married to him I suppose they’d get into the tender ‘kiss kiss, roll on, roll off, snore’ stuff, which we should reassure the unmarrieds is more romantic than it sounds. :) But I don’t think she’d want that as her only option, which would be the case if she married Xander.

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bitca says:
(Wed Jul 17 07:09:18 2002 67.24.231.170)

looks like everyone's trying for a fifth too.

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Fan of the early seasons says:
(Wed Jul 17 06:51:12 2002 12.72.43.73)

NO!

Spoilers are teasing the return of ***Amber Benson*** next season and I would really not like to see that happen. In any form.

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